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Does "when in Rome" apply here? |
Yes, "when in Rome" is completely universal and always true for all countries. |
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Yes, "when in Rome" is generally correct, but there are a few instances when behaving as a Korean does not makes sense. |
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No, Seoul and Rome are two different places. "When in Rome" seldom applies. |
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rooster_2006
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Does "when in Rome, do as the Romans" apply here? |
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"When in Rome, do as the Romans."
Does it apply in Korea?
I'm curious to hear what YOU guys think. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: |
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You don't understand Korean culture.
Only Koreans are supposed to date Koreans.
Only Koreans are supposed to talk loudly in a restaurant.
Only Koreans are supposed to rape women and get no jail sentences.
Only Koreans are supposed to sleep on the street next to their own vomit.
Only Koreans are supposed to hit their students with dowel rods. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Some things yes,
Some things no.
Obviously, theres a lot we can't do.
But I'm all for chewing with my mouth open and eating Kimchi and Halitosis. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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How many times has the "When in Rome" thread been tossed around here? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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esetters21 wrote: |
How many times has the "When in Rome" thread been tossed around here? |
More than a Jang-dong hooker. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Chilgok, Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Goku wrote: |
But I'm all for chewing with my mouth open and eating Kimchi and Halitosis. |
I hear ya there. I had the Kimchi and Halitosis last night at the HOF... Never again. Stomach upset, woke up with cold sweats, had to use the squat toilets at work... I just eat the kimchi and boh-sum usually. |
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ABC KID
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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It never applies anywhere. If you want to play the local games, do it. If you don't, don't. Culture is not a sacred cow, it's just a collection of inherited behaviors. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Generally yes, apart from the language barrier. In some ways we get treated better and can get away with more than Koreans our own age and sex, and in some ways we get treated worse and can get away with less. It all balances out and if you can recognise Korean BS when you see it and act accordingly, you won't have to deal with so much of it. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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A wag once wrote "When in Rome, do the Romans". I think that applies to Korea just fine. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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When in Rome do better than the Romans do applies in all countries. Certainly we should respect Korean culture and Koreans right to be Korean, but in some things we must follow our own culture.
Using a hypothetical example if bribery was a common occurrence it would not be right for a foreigner to pay bribes.
I also think foreigners using 2 hands to pour drinks for each other looks silly but if I am out with my boss I will use both hands. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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"When in Rome, do as the Romans." Does it apply in Korea?
Has Your K-Boss Ever Screwed You Out Of Money?
Poll Results
Yes: 75% [47]
No: 24% [15]
Total Votes : 62
from the Job-related Discussion Forum
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=129843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
Poll: Have you been paid late in Korea?
Never - I must be lucky! 32% [ 48 ]
Once or twice - no big deal, minor annoyance.. 21% [ 31 ]
Several times - hate it! 20% [ 30 ]
Several times - but I understand the culture, doesn't bother me... 4% [ 7 ]
Many times - sigh... 16% [ 24 ]
WTF! I've never been paid on time! ARGH!!! 4% [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 147
From the Job Discussion Board, last post seen on August 16, 2007
the poll or thread was deleted or moved
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=18732
Late pay... worth the wait?
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=37989
Banks Cite Non-existent Law on Expat Cards
By Kim Soe-jung and Park Yeon-soo, JoongAng Daily (January 28, 2008)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2885625
Deception Sums Up Year of 2007
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (December 23, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/12/117_16011.html
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
Michael Breen, a British journalist, quotes a foreign banker who worked closely with a chaebol as saying:
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"I make a point never to buy any Korean products on principle. Why? I will not support such a rabidly nationalistic, xenophobic and mercantilist economy. Koreans are so predatory and nationalistic. They have a closed economy and a zero-sum attitude to trade. Protectionism in the early stages of an economy is not unreasonable. But in the case of Korea it is almost a religious doctrine to keep foreign things out. If you buy a foreign car, you're seen as a traitor. They pick narrow industrial sectors and all jump in like copycats. If I see a Korean sports team, I root for the other side. Why? Because they're so full of themselves that they leave no room for other parties to participate and enjoy themselves. The 1988 Olympics was worse than the Hitler Games of 1936. Dealing with Koreans is like dealing with bright adolescents. They're full of energy and want to do everything yesterday. But they throw tantrums and are prone to dangerous and erratic behaviour if their whims are not indulged. In most countries, intellectuals become universal. You learn that great ideas and values have no national boundaries. What is profoundly disturbing is that Korean intellectuals become more xenophobic and nationalistic, and perpetuate the idea that all of Korea's problems are the result of wilfulness by foreigners. This is the mark of a scoundrel." |
Michael Breen (1998). The Koreans; Who They Are, What They Want, Where There Future Lies. New York: St. Martins Press (pages 19-20).
Amazon.com: Editorial Reviews:
The Koreans: Who They Are, What They Want, Where Their Future Lies
by Michael Breen
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312326092/103-3546866-6500649?vi=reviews |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think no matter what country you go to there are ways you want to behave, because the behavior of the locals won't suit you. The comment about halitosis is an interesting thing, because in Italy many people eat lots of garlic. Sure, they have some coffee beans to try to get rid of the smell, but some Italians will have the smell of garlic. Of course, there are ways that many Koreans behave that are considered culturally objectionable to us like horrible management practices and their views on following the laws of the land, corruption. I also wouldn't subscribe to their views that friends are not so important, and that families take much more importance than friends when a friend has done so much for you in your life. Of course, many Koreans don't follow culture just as many Westerners follow the beat of their own drum. |
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