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wanderingsalsero
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Plausible corruption in local PS administrations? |
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Is it possible that a local school administrator, in charge of finding an apartment for a new foreign teacher, could have a friend who owns an apartment building and strike a deal where, for example, the school officially pays 400,000KW for an apartment but the apartment is very small and only really representative of a 300,000 KW apartment because the contracting administrator from the school is getting the other 100,000 KW as a kickback?
I'm still speculating why my place is so small. I know two different people who live in Seoul, both in Haebangchon, who have larger places than mine. Much larger.....for only slightly more money.
I'm just looking for explinations of the small size of my place more reasonable than 'it's more expensive in the big city'. I just don't buy that arguement. In a downturned economy, it seems to me that larger places would be harder to lease/rent because people don't have as much extra money.
Furthermore when the economy gets suddenly bad like it apparently has, those builders on the tailend of the build-out cycle are usually stuck with property that's hard to lease out or sell. I know that's the way it happened in Houston twice during the time I was there. Premium office space was going really cheap for awhile.
Plus.......in big cities just the sheer magnitude of the supply side usually means that there's some property owners with good deals to be had.
Thanks,
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Thewhiteyalbum
Joined: 13 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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yes. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Of course it was most likely cronyism, where your administrator wants to help out a buddy at the cost of your personal living. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, my principal knew the church pastor and they struck a deal on my place. It's the good ol' boys club. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure it happens all the time, especially with couples receiving two housing allowances and sharing one apartment. |
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MrRogers
Joined: 29 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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yes...it is possible
and I was also thinking the same thing about the dump I was in...which the district supervisor refused to do anything about after I had asked many times...he also refused to deal with the clause in the contract regarding the fee and my using it elsewhere...
he refused and said "absolutely not"
I think he was pocketing the balance ...as the place was a real dive |
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Kimchieluver

Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I'm sure it happens all the time, especially with couples receiving two housing allowances and sharing one apartment. |
I don't see anything wrong with couples sharing an apartment and both receiving a housing allowance. I know a few who have not been able to do it and they are living in one of the smaller villas in the city. Much smaller than most other foreigners here. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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It might just be they were lazy and took the first place a real estate agent showed them.
For the exact same budget one can find really nice places and really terrible dives wherever you are in Seoul or Korea. If one is ever house hunting for oneself I'd recommend visiting half a dozen estate agents and viewing as many apartments as possible. $500 can get you a nice clean brand new place of a decent size, or a horrible dingey basement.
But it is also possible someone's taking a kickback. It's impossible to tell though. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Kimchieluver wrote: |
Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I'm sure it happens all the time, especially with couples receiving two housing allowances and sharing one apartment. |
I don't see anything wrong with couples sharing an apartment and both receiving a housing allowance. I know a few who have not been able to do it and they are living in one of the smaller villas in the city. Much smaller than most other foreigners here. |
Um, that's not what I meant. I meant that a school district or English village receives two housing allowances for a couple, puts them up in a place that costs less than the combined total, and then 'someone' pockets the difference. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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What neighbourhood are you in? Prices might be cheaper in Haebangchon.
And this is not defending Korea by saying there's no corruption. It stretches from the humblest kindergartener all the way up to the president. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
What neighbourhood are you in? Prices might be cheaper in Haebangchon.
And this is not defending Korea by saying there's no corruption. It stretches from the humblest kindergartener all the way up to the president. |
HBC is cheap because it's an undesirable location, with undesirable housing, and undesirable people...... |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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crazy_arcade wrote: |
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
What neighbourhood are you in? Prices might be cheaper in Haebangchon.
And this is not defending Korea by saying there's no corruption. It stretches from the humblest kindergartener all the way up to the president. |
HBC is cheap because it's an undesirable location, with undesirable housing, and undesirable people...... |
Yeah, I thought that was apparent from my post. If you're living somewhere close by like Hannam then you'd expect to pay way more for a smaller unit. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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OP, I'd be surprised if there was NO corruption.
In Korea, just about every financial transaction involves some conflict of interest. |
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