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Who is the Head of State in Canada
The Governor General
18%
 18%  [ 7 ]
The Prime Minister
23%
 23%  [ 9 ]
The President
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
The Chairman
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
A Foreign Monarch
55%
 55%  [ 21 ]
Total Votes : 38

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Jandar



Joined: 11 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: A Poll for Canadians Reply with quote

Please participate this is very important.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Queen Elizabeth II.
Unfortunate, but there are a lot of other important things to do before we think about changing this.
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joshuahirtle27



Joined: 23 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?
Oh I get it. This is going to start another one of those stupid "you're British subjects" tangents or something like that. OR something along the lines of "Ha, stupid Canadians. You don't have control of your own government because the Queen is the Head of State in Canada."

Well before we have another "The Queen suspends parliament" discussion about "how The Governor General who is the Queens Representative in Canada to the government gave Stephan Harper the power to suspend parliament because of a non-confidence vote (which is his right and duty as Prime Minister) passed by Her Majesties Loyal Opposition who can represent another 1/3 of the popular vote and the third party which represents another 1/3 of the popular vote totaling 66% of the popular vote of the people..." Just remember we already know this stuff and Canadians know more about Canada than Americans so Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz
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denistron



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Canada

Technically the queen is the top person. But she doesn't use her executive power.

Here is the way it works in theory: In Canada, the head of state can, in exceptional circumstances, protect Parliament and the people against a Prime Minister and Ministers who may forget that "minister" means "servant," and may try to make themselves masters. For example, the head of state (queen or a chosen representative know as the governor general) could refuse to let a Cabinet dissolve a newly elected House of Commons before it could even meet, or could refuse to let Ministers bludgeon the people into submission by a continuous series of general elections.

The Canadian army is sworn to the queen. This can been seen in the oath they must take.

Though the royal family doesn't normally intervene directly in Canada's political affairs, and hasn't intervened at any point in my known history , their real power shouldn't be downplayed. The queen is the legal and real power of Canada by decree of the Canadian Constitution.

The current Prime Minister is Stephen Harper. Prime Ministers are normally the head of the political party who holds a majority of seats in the House of Commons (today we have a minority government). The Prime Minister forms a cabinet. In practice the cabinet is the executive committee of the Canadian government. Most of Canada's decisions are done there.

The rest gets really complicated.....
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denistron wrote:

Though the royal family doesn't normally intervene directly in Canada's political affairs, and hasn't intervened at any point in my known history , their real power shouldn't be downplayed. The queen is the legal and real power of Canada by decree of the Canadian Constitution...


And if she actually used it?
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joshuahirtle27



Joined: 23 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denistron wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Canada

Technically the queen is the top person. But she doesn't use her executive power.

Here is the way it works in theory: In Canada, the head of state can, in exceptional circumstances, protect Parliament and the people against a Prime Minister and Ministers who may forget that "minister" means "servant," and may try to make themselves masters. For example, the head of state (queen or a chosen representative know as the governor general) could refuse to let a Cabinet dissolve a newly elected House of Commons before it could even meet, or could refuse to let Ministers bludgeon the people into submission by a continuous series of general elections.

The Canadian army is sworn to the queen. This can been seen in the oath they must take.

Though the royal family doesn't normally intervene directly in Canada's political affairs, and hasn't intervened at any point in my known history , their real power shouldn't be downplayed. The queen is the legal and real power of Canada by decree of the Canadian Constitution.

The current Prime Minister is Stephen Harper. Prime Ministers are normally the head of the political party who holds a majority of seats in the House of Commons (today we have a minority government). The Prime Minister forms a cabinet. In practice the cabinet is the executive committee of the Canadian government. Most of Canada's decisions are done there.

The rest gets really complicated.....

It's like the University President and the President of the Student Council at any University. I think.
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joshuahirtle27



Joined: 23 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
denistron wrote:

Though the royal family doesn't normally intervene directly in Canada's political affairs, and hasn't intervened at any point in my known history , their real power shouldn't be downplayed. The queen is the legal and real power of Canada by decree of the Canadian Constitution...


And if she actually used it?


It's never happened so... 3? She would obviously have to have a reason to use it. The safety of the commonwealth in general would be reason enough to use the military force of the commonwealth countries. I would assume that since most Canadians accept that Elizabeth II is the Head of State in Canada she would be able to use said power to do what needed to be done.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Queen would never use it. If the Queen, or some future monarch used it, it would no doubt be meet with huge, massive political and social backlash and throw Canada into a crisis.
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supernick



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Please participate this is very important.


Only to you.
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supernick



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Queen Elizabeth II, the monarch of Britain, is the queen of Canada. She is the official head of state and is represented in Canada by the governor-general and in each province by a lieutenant governor. The governor-general is appointed by the reigning monarch on the recommendation of the prime minister of Canada. Traditionally, English-speakers alternate with French-speakers as governor-general. The length of term is usually five years.

The governor-general�s role is largely ceremonial; he or she summons, suspends, and dissolves Parliament, gives royal assent to bills that have passed Parliament, authorizes treaties, commissions officers in the armed forces, gives honors such as the Order of Canada, and acts as host to visiting heads of state. He or she has the constitutional right to be consulted and to give advice and thus receives regular visits from the prime minister and government officials.

Officially the governor-general appoints the prime minister and the cabinet ministers. However, he or she must adhere to the advice of the party with the most seats in the House of Commons (the larger chamber of Parliament) in appointing the prime minister and must follow the prime minister�s wishes in appointing the Cabinet. While holding no political power, the governor-general has considerable symbolic power. As the governor-general is above politics, the post serves as a unifying symbol for all Canadians.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, loving the whole blue thing you've got going on there.
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DrunkenMaster



Joined: 04 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar, this thread is so faecinating.
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sharkey



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol jander, a foreign monarch ...
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She has bigger things to worry about.

Queen: 'Mr Harper, is everything okay over there in Canada?'

Harper: 'Yes your Majesty.'

Queen: 'Carry on then.'
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joshuahirtle27 wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
denistron wrote:

Though the royal family doesn't normally intervene directly in Canada's political affairs, and hasn't intervened at any point in my known history , their real power shouldn't be downplayed. The queen is the legal and real power of Canada by decree of the Canadian Constitution...


And if she actually used it?


It's never happened so... 3? She would obviously have to have a reason to use it. The safety of the commonwealth in general would be reason enough to use the military force of the commonwealth countries. I would assume that since most Canadians accept that Elizabeth II is the Head of State in Canada she would be able to use said power to do what needed to be done.


I wouldn't assume that.

Most of the Canadians I know would burst out laughing if the Queen asked for their service.

She could ask for assistance, but there's a chance she wouldn't get it.
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