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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Torture in Hell at Dentist - Anesthesia doesn't work... |
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This week - I have had two (2) teeth - causing me huge pain...
I complained to the dentist that it was a tooth on my upper jaw causing the pain - however after a couple of Xrays - the dentist tells me that the pain is coming from a tooth on the lower jaw (underneath the tooth I am complaining about) and tells me that the pain is coming from the tooth (on my bottom jaw) - which already has gold filling in it..
She points out on the Xrays that there is a huge cavity underneath the gold which is causing the pain..
so the dentist gives me heaps of anethesia and wrenches the gold out of the tooth and put in a temporary filling
HOWVER the anesthesia did not work - and I felt every bit of pain as she did it all..
then the dentist tells me that she wants me back every
2 days at the clinic to get a root-canal and have new gold and a
new gold cap put back on that tooth..
But Monday night, and Tuesday and Tuesday night and today
(Wednesday) - I was in HUGE amount of pain because of the tooth -
and the other one that is hurting (which is directly above that
tooth) - on the top jaw..
It felt like I was in hell.. so much pain - shooting up into my
head and causing heaps of pain.. all day and all night and all day
and all night ...
I never got any sleep Monday or Tuesday night - because it hurt too
much..
So today - I walked into my hospital (like a zombie) - and told them - I couldn't handle it anymore - too much pain...
so luckily they injected me with codeine and gave me one weeks
supply of codeine.. (which took away some of the pain)
then I went back to the dentist - and the dentist wanted to quickly
fix the upper tooth - which is where the pain in coming from..
so she injects me with the anesthesia (3 needles) - but I could
still feel the pain and my tooth - so over the next hour she
injects me 5 more times...
so after 8 injections of "Korean" anesthesia" (and begging the
doctor for something stronger) - the dentist told me she didn't
have anything stronger and told me - look just hold on to the sides of the chair for 2 minutes - and she would try to be as quick as possible -
because we have to fix this upper tooth - so the pain would go away...
Well the next 5 minutes was definitely hell.. the drill boring
into my tooth - and me able to feel everything...
I jumped.. I kicked my feet... I started breathing fast and
jolting ...
but eventually it was over - and then the dentist prescribed me
more painkillers...
the worst thing is - I have to go back four (4) more times for the
rest of the dentistry (including root canal) - BUT the anesthesia
doesn't work on me.. It has NO affect on me... I can feel
everything like normal...
I have heard before that Asian people only need a small amount of
weak anesthesia and they causes them not to feel anything) - whereas "white" people - need much more and much stronger anesthesia.. (which this dentist didn't have)..
am I wrong - or is the dentist doing something wrong...
I have to go back Friday - and can't handle another torture session..
should I change and go to a different dentist? or will they have the same anesthesia which doesn't work?
Are there many clinics that use the anesthesia that we are used to in our home countries?
what should I do? |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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holy *beep*
fly home..... |
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Thewhiteyalbum
Joined: 13 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Oh man, I feel really sorry for you. That really sucks. Where is this dentist? country or city?
Okay, my dentist started drilling on me w/o using any painkillers, so I requested some. She gave me 2 injections, and they worked fine. Mouth went all numb etc, and I couldn't feel a thing.
BUT my girlfriend went to a dentist to have a tooth removed and he gave her some injections that wore off really quickly. I think there is a difference in the quality of anathesia that is used (don't know for sure though!).
I would go to another dentist.
Good luck. |
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Stones1962
Joined: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Europe/Asia
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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that dentist should have her license revoked....I had a root canal done 4 years ago by a dentist in Bucheon (I'll search for his card if you wish) and had absolutely no pain during any of the procedures...
he did a wonderful job and has had my business ever since... |
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plynx

Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: |
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for the past few months i've been having two root canals done on the lower back teeth. it hadn't hurt at all until the other day when i screeched in pain and started crying before the dentist had even done any work. he gave me more shots to numb my teeth/mouth (about 5 in all - plus the initial 20 minutes or so for the first, most powerful, dose to work), but i could still feel EVERYTHING. being a smart dentist, he stopped working on me and coated the problem tooth with a solution that would "kill" the nerves. i went back a week later and didn't feel a thing.
i think your dentist is just TERRIBLE at her job. stop going to her and see if you can get some of your money back since she obviously botched the job. get another dentist. there are plenty of them who wouldn't let something like this happen. good luck. i know how it feels  |
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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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I live at MongChongtoseong Station (Jamsil)..
The dentist I went to is at GaeRong Station - next to my school..
The hospital which luckily gave me all the codeine to put me out of my pain is Asan Medical Center... (hospital)
Bucheon is a bit far to travel to - but anywhere is better than torture I guess - although somewhere closer to Jamsil would be nice...
I am not going to fly 14 hours all the way back to my homecountry for a good dentist..
I really wanted to know - are most korean dentists using anesthesia that doesn't work - or just this dentist is using some weak solution..
I will try another different dentist on Friday (immediately after Christmas)... I will die if its the same anesthesia (which doesn't work)... |
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plynx

Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Yesterday wrote: |
I live at MongChongtoseong Station (Jamsil)..
The dentist I went to is at GaeRong Station - next to my school..
The hospital which luckily gave me all the codeine to put me out of my pain is Asan Medical Center... (hospital)
Bucheon is a bit far to travel to - but anywhere is better than torture I guess - although somewhere closer to Jamsil would be nice...
I am not going to fly 14 hours all the way back to my homecountry for a good dentist..
I really wanted to know - are most korean dentists using anesthesia that doesn't work - or just this dentist is using some weak solution..
I will try another different dentist on Friday (immediately after Christmas)... I will die if its the same anesthesia (which doesn't work)... |
my dentist is in hannam (near itaewon). i could PM you the details if you're interested. they tend to have a lot of openings on the weekends. |
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SHANE02

Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I know the pain you speak of. It's impossible to explain. I had an abscess once in my tooth (after a root canal). the dentist told me I had to "wait it out". asshole.
I visited the doctor in Itaewon (int.clinic) and he put me on pain meds and hooked me up with a decent dentist.
Koreans think pain has to be part of life. |
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jbpatlanta
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I feel you pain. I had a wisdom tooth pulled the other day. I told the dentist that I needed more than one shot. He did not believe me. He came back 10 minutes after the shot and asked if my mouth was numb. I told him no and he said he did not believe me, bu the gave me 2 more shots.
Came back later and asked if my mouth was numb, by this time it was numb but I could still feel some. He said he was going to start and if I felt pain to raise my hand.
He started and I winced and told him it hurt. He said OK and kept going. I began to feel incredible pain and started to scream bloody murder. By the time my wife got back to me I had the dentist cornened in the office threatening to drill into his teeth with no bloody painkillers.
My wife calmed me down and explained to told the dentist that even back home I needed several shots to kill all the pain.
The dentist agreed to give me more shots. I am not sure how many he gave me but it took a while and when he was finished I could not feel and damn thing on that side of my mouth for about 6 hours. The rest of the tooth pulling was fine and the dentist worked very carefully.
I am supposed to go back to get my other wisdom tooth pulled in a few weeks. The dentist told me he would remember and give me lots of shots to begin with.
I also got four stitches in my hand with a decent shot but that's another story... |
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theholyinnocent
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Have you had problems with anesthesia before? I ask because a dentist once told me that the shape of my jaw is uncommon (though not abnormal) and makes it really hard to get me properly numb. Dentists have, on occasion, had difficulty numbing my mouth for some procedure but before she told me that I just assumed it was "the luck of the draw" -- that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. After she said that, it made more sense to me. Frequently the wrong part of my face goes numb, like my whole chin and cheek will be numb but I feel every little touch on the gum itself. When I had my wisdom teeth taken out they had to put me to sleep because they couldn't rely on getting me correctly numbed. I'm about 100 or 105 pounds, and 5 feet tall, so I don't think it's a size thing with me.
Anyway I've had cavities filled with little to no (working) anesthesia, and a root canal done while only moderately numb. You DEFINITELY have my sympathy; it's just about the worst thing in the world. I can't imagine what I'd do in your situation but I wanted to at least let you know that you're not alone? I don't know, that probably doesn't make you feel better right now. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Asian people only need a small amount of
weak anesthesia and they causes them not to feel anything) - whereas "white" people - need much more and much stronger anesthesia.. (which this dentist didn't have).. |
Replace 'Asian' with 'tiny skinny asses' and 'white' with 'big fat asses'. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I had a wisdom tooth out a few years ago back home. The dentist was a deadset genius in my opinion. The shot he gave me pretty much numbed the tooth and nothing else. It seemed like he was leaning on my face for about half a second and then bang, the tooth came flying out.
Good guy too, hooked me up with a fortnights codeine. Don't settle for dodgy medical practises. |
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seoulteacher
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Stones1962 wrote: |
that dentist should have her license revoked....I had a root canal done 4 years ago by a dentist in Bucheon (I'll search for his card if you wish) and had absolutely no pain during any of the procedures...
he did a wonderful job and has had my business ever since... |
SUMMARY:
Its really not necessary to have dental pain, not even in Korea: PM one of the other posters who has a good dentist to recommend. Your mouth - and your sanity! - will thank you.
Dentists of Korea (OK, not all, but too many of you): pain is absolutely NOT necessary!
'Yesterday', I fully empathize with you. And 'Stones1962' makes a good point: revoke the dental licences of the incompetents' /any hard-headed Korean dentists! (Sorry if anyone is offended by inclusion of the word 'Korean', I have never heard of this continuing and widespread complaint about dental pain management in other countries I've worked in. And the problem continues despite the many complaints we foreigners in Korea make).
I had a lot of dental work done in Seoul a few years back; I must have spent about Won 5m (when the exchange rate made that equal to about US $ 5,000). And that was after a discount because I was dating the female dentist's elementary school friend.
The dentist's office was as modern and clean as you'd want, she was charming and friendly (I liked her and still like her), and her English was more than good enough. BUT...pain management, man oh man: I would ask for more painkillers and she'd give me another shot, but it was always inadequate to the task. And, as painful as it all was, I was uncomfortable asking for more and more injections after, say, one or two requests: if the dentist can't give enough painkillers, how was I, a layman, to know how much might be too much for my system to handle?
(All this as I remembered that 20 years previous a dentist in Canada had done a lot of work (filling cavities and at least one root canal), but WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PAIN. Not even his injections were painful; I'd ask him if he'd actually finished with the injection, and he'd reply that it was all in the care taken to very slowly inject the novocaine (ah ha: no "Pali, pali!")).
It got so bad with that Seoul dentist that, after one 3 hour session of stopping her every 5-10 minutes in sheer agony, and I kid you not, I just couldn't go back to her. I instead went to Yonsei Dental Clinic / Hospital (on Yonsei University's campus in Shinchon, immediately behind its Severance Hospital), and had work done by a dentist there. Sorry, he's moved on from Yonsei and I can't remember his name; and the clinic he later referred me to (in order to not have to pay Yonsei's higher fees), which also did good & painless work, moved - I went back months later to say hello to the dentists and the whole block of buildings had disappeared!
I even seriously considered suggesting to that female dentist that she go to Canada and spend a week understudying a dentist there re pain management. The last previous dentist I had in Vancouver had good pain management skills (and was also of Asian ethnicity, so that might have made it easier to learn from?) and I would have gladly put them in touch. The thought of giving her a scholarship to travel there occurred to me - me paying for this apparently very wealthy professional was secondary; "Just open your eyes, lady, there is absolutely no reason for your causing this much pain!" went through my mind. But she wasn't open to discussing any need to change her approach, and when I later went to that other dentist, she wouldn't even acknowledge me at a prayer service (at the 70th birthday celebration of my friend's mother).
Sorry, 'Yesterday', its a bit long, this post - but your situation has brought back memories of very similar pain that I suffered; thankfully its behind me now, as I wish for you - and as it can be through another dentist.
And, on this Christmas morning here in Korea, Merry Christmas! (Or Hannukah, or whatever else you may be celebrating). And may you and yours be blessed! |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: |
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That type of pain is not normal at all. I had a lot of dental work done in Korea. I always tell them to freeze me more than a normal person because I am super sensitive. I had a wisdom tooth pulled and I didn't feel anything except the guy's knee on my chest as he was pulling the sucker out.
I had a root canal done and felt no pain while they were doing it - but pain afterwards cause the dentist wouldn't give me anything for the pain. |
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Tommy

Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Dude! All signs point to: GO TO ANOTHER F*CKING DENTIST.
If you enjoy pain, then return to her. No sympathy for you. |
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