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Mbeki's AIDS denial killed hundreds of thousands
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump. Cornfed. Found those papers yet?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess from cornfed's prolonged silence we can conclude:

1) There is no goal post in virology that states that electron scanning microscope photos are not legitimate and accurate ways to image a virus. His claim (I believe) that x ray crystallography is the only legit method is without substance.

2) There are no virologists in the Perth group, despite his explicit claims there were.

3) There are no scientific papers that cast doubt on the genetic sequencing of the HIV (1 and 2) genome. There is zero evidence, other than hand waving claims of a conspiracy, that the openly published sequencing is not what researchers claim it to be.

You have two science degrees, huh?

Your claims are dismissed. Very sorry and try to do better in 2009.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=449

HIV denier and her child die of AIDS-related illness. She killed her child first and then she paid the price.
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to wonder whether Cornfed really believes what he's shoveling or he's simply a troll trying to whip up drama.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReeseDog wrote:
I have to wonder whether Cornfed really believes what he's shoveling or he's simply a troll trying to whip up drama.


Back around 2000 or so, I had a roommate, pretty bright guy with no particular vested interest, who was absolutely convinced of the denialist theories. He was involved in the internet forums that promoted the Duesberg hypothesis, and used to outline its arguments for me around the living room.

At the time, it seemed like fairly credible stuff, but the things I've read since then make it seem less so. I've fallen out of touch with the guy, and I'm wondering if he still holds to those ideas.
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he'll be back. This time armed with more "research".
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
I think he'll be back. This time armed with more "research".


Like all kooks and deniers, he'll be back simply repeating his original claims, as if repetition is evidence.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.layscience.net/node/467

Oh man. A homeopath claims he can fix you up with a glass of water.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
http://www.layscience.net/node/467

Oh man. A homeopath claims he can fix you up with a glass of water.


Absolutely every time I hear of homeopathy, I think the only thing you need to make money in this world is a complete lack of scruples. Or talent. Unfortunately I have scruples but no talent.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
http://www.layscience.net/node/467

Oh man. A homeopath claims he can fix you up with a glass of water.


Absolutely every time I hear of homeopathy, I think the only thing you need to make money in this world is a complete lack of scruples. Or talent. Unfortunately I have scruples but no talent.


That about sums it up for a lot of sCAM. (Cough detox thread. Any clue what Bramble is raging about?)
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.badscience.net/2009/01/what-if-everything-you-thought-you-knew-about-aids-was-wrong/?

Ben Goldacre of The Guardian on HIV denial.
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Jandar



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's Cornfed?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar wrote:
Where's Cornfed?


I think he's been banned.
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