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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| I've just received the calendar of my working days for 2009. I started work in Sept 2008 and I am due to finish in September 2009. If I total the days off for vacation it comes to six! I thought there was a minimum vacation of 10 days per year..is this correct? Is it the calendar year or working year? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| tfunk wrote: |
| I thought there was a minimum vacation of 10 days per year..is this correct? |
Actually, it's 15 non-Red Day/non-weekend days, all within the 1 year of your contract. |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| tfunk wrote: |
| I thought there was a minimum vacation of 10 days per year..is this correct? |
Actually, it's 15 non-Red Day/non-weekend days, all within the 1 year of your contract. |
Seriously?
Any opinions on the best way to approach my boss with this? Will the labor board back me up? (I'm currently not paying any pension). |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| tfunk wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| tfunk wrote: |
| I thought there was a minimum vacation of 10 days per year..is this correct? |
Actually, it's 15 non-Red Day/non-weekend days, all within the 1 year of your contract. |
Any opinions on the best way to approach my boss with this? Will the labor board back me up? (I'm currently not paying any pension). |
Print out the labor laws from the Labor website, highlight the relevant clauses, then leave it on his desk and ask him to please fix the situation. If he refuses, get a Labor official on the phone (1350, ext 7), explain the situation to him, then hand the phone to your boss so the official can explain the situation TO HIM.
Pension is a different animal, and you need to see someone at the pension office for that. |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| tfunk wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| tfunk wrote: |
| I thought there was a minimum vacation of 10 days per year..is this correct? |
Actually, it's 15 non-Red Day/non-weekend days, all within the 1 year of your contract. |
Any opinions on the best way to approach my boss with this? Will the labor board back me up? (I'm currently not paying any pension). |
Print out the labor laws from the Labor website, highlight the relevant clauses, then leave it on his desk and ask him to please fix the situation. If he refuses, get a Labor official on the phone (1350, ext 7), explain the situation to him, then hand the phone to your boss so the official can explain the situation TO HIM.
Pension is a different animal, and you need to see someone at the pension office for that. |
Thanks for this. I notice 7-10 paid vacation is mentioned on job advertisements on Dave's. So I expect I can take a few extra days holiday but they will be deducted from my salary if they don't fall within the 7-10 paid vacation days. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| tfunk wrote: |
| I notice 7-10 paid vacation is mentioned on job advertisements on Dave's. So I expect I can take a few extra days holiday but they will be deducted from my salary if they don't fall within the 7-10 paid vacation days. |
No, all 15 days are paid. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| No, all 15 days are paid. |
Yes, but tfunk's wongjangnim-babo-'boss' will utter this horrific, gutteral "AAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK" and tell him/her every Sunday is vacation.  |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Labor law - 10 days holiday minimum? |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| No, all 15 days are paid. |
Yes, but tfunk's wongjangnim-babo-'boss' will utter this horrific, gutteral "AAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK" and tell him/her every Sunday is vacation. |
You forgot about the sucking in of air as he "thinks about it" before saying it is impossible.
The Labor office telephone dude will simply tell him Saturdays and Sundays are not counted as vacation days, and neither are Red Days.
BTW,
wongjangnim-babo-'boss' == X
wonjangnimrod == O |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I want to 'in on' the first Labor Board 'test case' for the new, 2009 EPIK contracts that change 14 working days to 21 calendar days.   |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| I want to 'in on' the first Labor Board 'test case' for the new, 2009 EPIK contracts that change 14 working days to 21 calendar days. |
Are 21 calendar days not also 15 working days (5 working days per 7 day calendar week)? |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| I want to 'in on' the first Labor Board 'test case' for the new, 2009 EPIK contracts that change 14 working days to 21 calendar days. |
Are 21 calendar days not also 15 working days (5 working days per 7 day calendar week)? |
No, because the contract contains the provisions that ten calendar days are taken in summer and eleven in winter.
The ten calendar day block will only give eight working day off if one starts the block on a Tuesday and ends it on a Thursday (assuming there is no statutory holiday in the block). Who the hell wants to work the Monday before their holiday and the Friday after?
So, 21 calendar days can mean as many as 15 working days, or as few as 13 or less - if the employee is stupid enough to go on holiday during lunar New Year or Aug. 15. One will not be able to extend one's holidays by combining contract holidays with statutory holidays.
For the vast majority, it will in effect, mean one less day of holidays. The Ks aren't stupid; but they know the new crop of PS newbies are.
"It's camp time boys and girls." Caa...ching! |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| What does the new contract say about renewal leave? Do you still get the additional two weeks if you renew? I only care about the EPIK contract. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| What does the new contract say about renewal leave? Do you still get the additional two weeks if you renew? I only care about the EPIK contract. |
Yes, the two weeks 'home leave' for renewal remains unchanged. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. I was worried I might have to look for a uni/unigwon job there for a bit or do strictly privates. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Thanks. I was worried I might have to look for a uni/unigwon job there for a bit or do strictly privates. |
Remember - only one more 'kick at the cat' to fly anywhere in the world (equal to or less than the distance home, no matter what the cost) for renewal. |
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