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Smee
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 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Harassment Case Stokes Xenophobia at Seoul Nat`l Univ. |
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�To avoid suspicious eyes, I used to walk all the way to a classroom instead of riding a shuttle bus.�
So said a 24-year-old graduate student at Seoul National University who also heads the Indian students� association there.
He said he has suffered from unfounded rumors over sexual harassment perpetrated by a foreign student.
The rumors began at the on-campus Internet bulletin board �SNU Life.� One female student posted a message Nov. 24 that she was sexually harassed by a foreign student who looked Indian on a shuttle bus.
A Dec. 1 post by an anonymous user said she witnessed a foreign student sexually harassing a female student and took a picture of the alleged culprit.
The bulletin board has since been bombarded with derogatory posts targeting students from India, saying things like �Indians look down upon fellow Asians� or �(Indian students) must be expelled.�
Controversy is thus brewing over xenophobia at the country�s top university. For their own safety, school authorities have recommended that Indian students avoid hanging around campus alone.
A probe by the university�s counseling center for victims of sexual harassment and abuse found that a Pakistani student at the engineering graduate school was the culprit. This is the first time for the university to investigate sexual harassment allegedly committed by a foreign student.
The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men.
�The Indian students� association felt deeply affronted by this incident,� said a university official. �On the day of the incident, the association launched a voluntary investigation to track the whereabouts of all Indian students and reported the results to school authorities.�
A 31-year-old Indian Ph.D student wrote on the Web that Indian students were greatly offended by responses from Korean students. �It�s wrong and hasty to lash out at all Indians on the comment that �He looked like an Indian,� even though the investigation results have yet to come out,� he said.
�How would a Korean feel if he or she was wrongly blamed for a crime committed by a Chinese or Japanese abroad?� |
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2008122989238 |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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| The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men. |
Feel sorry for the Indians, but not this guy.
He should be tarred. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Harassment Case Stokes Xenophobia at Seoul Nat`l Univ. |
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The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men. |
Yeah, boo-hoo. Back on the plane with ya. Maybe you can try again in, oh, let's say 10 years if you learn some manners. Bye!! |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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It's not like the Paki student went Cho Seung-Hui on the girls, and can therefore expect to get beat up like all the Korean students got beat up at Virginia Tech after the murder of 32 people by a Korean.
I mean we know what would have happened to those Indian students had it been a reverse Virginia Tech (an Indian "looking" guy murdering 32 Koreans). Interestingly, Cho Sueng Hui killed two Indians, a Vietnamese, Peruvian, a Cannuck, an Egyptian, a Puerto Rican, an Indonesian, a Romanian, and a bunch of Americans. |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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It's not like the Paki student went Cho Seung-Hui on the girls, and can therefore expect to get beat up like all the Korean students got beat up at Virginia Tech after the murder of 32 people by a Korean.
I mean we know what would have happened to those Indian students had it been a reverse Virginia Tech (an Indian "looking" guy murdering 32 Koreans). Interestingly, Cho Sueng Hui killed two Indians, a Vietnamese, Peruvian, a Cannuck, an Egyptian, a Puerto Rican, an Indonesian, a Romanian, and a bunch of Americans. |
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| "The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men. " |
No. he didn't kill the girls. he sexually assaulted them.
Apples and eggs my friend....apples and eggs..... |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Harassment Case Stokes Xenophobia at Seoul Nat`l Univ. |
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| caniff wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men. |
Yeah, boo-hoo. Back on the plane with ya. Maybe you can try again in, oh, let's say 10 years if you learn some manners. Bye!! |
Exactly. Don't come to a country that's part of the 21st century without having a working knowledge that the shit you get away with back home might get your head stomped in here. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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It's not like the Paki student went Cho Seung-Hui on the girls, and can therefore expect to get beat up like all the Korean students got beat up at Virginia Tech after the murder of 32 people by a Korean.
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Did they? |
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samcheokguy
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Samcheok G-do
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| "The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men. " |
No. he didn't kill the girls. he sexually assaulted them.
Apples and eggs my friend....apples and eggs..... |
well assaulted or harassed? One is an unfinished rape and one is a "hey nice t*#ts!" neither one is classy but one is a whole lot worse. |
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pidgin
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Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| well assaulted or harassed? One is an unfinished rape and one is a "hey nice t*#ts!" neither one is classy but one is a whole lot worse. |
Exactly! Suddenly pinning "assault" on this guy is just as bad (or worse) as jumping races without proof.  |
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ChinaBoy
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He probably asked them out on a date, they didn't like him, so it's "harassment"
Notice that no one on the shuttle bus did anything except take a picture |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Sometimes English newspapers in Korea use the term "sexual harassment" when "sexual assault" would probably be more appropriate. Also, a few years ago there was a "sexual harassment" workshop where I worked, and it sounded as if they were using a broader definition than we're used to in the West. It covered sexual exploitation as well as sexual harassment. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The counseling center said the Pakistani sexually harassed five female students. He told school officials that he inadvertently made mistakes due to Pakistani culture, which deems women inferior to men. |
Good thing Korea is a modern country where wives are sometimes allowed to eat in the same room as their husbands, as long as they're done all the chores while the men were out buying and selling young women in red lit windows. I mean, a woman is only beaten in public with no help from onlookers or the police if she dares look at an older man while drinking the shot of soju she was forced to consume so the boss could fondle her freely with the protection of her co-wokrkers. I do feel bad for all the middle school boys who have to be in the same classroom with grils forced to wear extremely short skirts as part of their uniform/fetishization. Luckily gang rapes are covered up by the male administrators to protect these young men! |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I do feel bad for all the middle school boys who have to be in the same classroom with grils forced to wear extremely short skirts as part of their uniform/fetishization. |
Ummm, I think you're thinking of the wrong country here... The only place in East Asia I've seen "extremely short skirts" on school girls has been Japan (although I can't say I've seen many Chinese uniforms, so I guess they might be short there, as well). If you're talking about seeing girls on the subway and such, you need to realize that many girls hike them up once they're off school property because they want to look older.
I can't speak for all schools, but at my school (all-girl's high school) they get punished for anything above the knees. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I do feel bad for all the middle school boys who have to be in the same classroom with grils forced to wear extremely short skirts as part of their uniform/fetishization. |
Ummm, I think you're thinking of the wrong country here... The only place in East Asia I've seen "extremely short skirts" on school girls has been Japan (although I can't say I've seen many Chinese uniforms, so I guess they might be short there, as well). |
The extremely short skirts were in style this past summer.
I don't think he was talking about school uniforms. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I do feel bad for all the middle school boys who have to be in the same classroom with grils forced to wear extremely short skirts as part of their uniform/fetishization. |
Ummm, I think you're thinking of the wrong country here... The only place in East Asia I've seen "extremely short skirts" on school girls has been Japan (although I can't say I've seen many Chinese uniforms, so I guess they might be short there, as well). If you're talking about seeing girls on the subway and such, you need to realize that many girls hike them up once they're off school property because they want to look older.
I can't speak for all schools, but at my school (all-girl's high school) they get punished for anything above the knees. |
Chinese students wear track suits, no skin showing except your face and hands |
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