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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Jati wrote: |
You didn't understand the comment about thread titles in your drunken state, did you? Titles usually indicate the type of contents within. So, for example, if you don't want to see an ugly woman, then don't go into the "World's Ugliest Woman" booth at the state fair. |
You question my drunken state? What the fu5k do ugly women at state fairs have to do with investment opportunities in 2009?
When shooting from the hip, try not to contradict yourself and shoot yourself in the foot. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| BS.Dos. wrote: |
| Invest in people, not commodities. |
Why not just cut out the middle man and directly invest in platitudes? |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Not sure what your point is, but I think the correct term for 'cutting out the middle man' is disintermediation.
You're welcome. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| BS.Dos. wrote: |
Stop thinking binary. Happiness, for some of us at least, isn't quantified so irreducibly. |
Ah, but it is for us. Gotcha! You are one sharp cookie.
Let me play. You have feelings of inadequacy regarding your financial status, but rather than being mature and dealing with those issues within yourself, you'd rather lash out with sophomoric psychological analyses of people you've never met. You would like to think that while others may have more money than you, you (and prseumably other short-term planners like yourself) lead a spiritually richer life. Clearly then, you are the one who is thinking binarily, since you've equated not only the possession of money, but financial planning, with spiritual emptiness. Congratulations on contradicting yourself.
I predict this attitude of yours will abruptly change when you either A) turn 30 and realize you don't have a dime to your name or B) get married and realize that living the life of an ascetic won't put a roof over your family's head.
(It is possible this attitude of yours will never change. That's ok, I'm sure that your attitude of smug condescension will comfort you in your penniless future much more than a nice place to live and financial freedom ever would.) |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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TECK COMINCO B stock on the TSE
$50 stock currently sitting at around $5 due to the low price of zinc and some debt problems after they undertook a takeover. It'll go back up.
It's a buyers market, many companies that work in minerals are down down down and they will go back up. Don't have enough money to invest in gold...(gold might be the next bubble) invest in a good gold exploration company.....(as long as they're not working in Indonesia and pushing geologists out of helicopters....kkk)
Green tech companies are probably going to explode if the next wave to technology comes through and is viable. Take a look at ZENN and EESTOR....if EESTOR delivers then both are gonna jump huge. ZENN is well positioned to continue growing along a different route even if EESTOR doesn't hit. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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TECK COMINCO B stock on the TSE
$50 stock currently sitting at around $5 due to the low price of zinc and some debt problems after they undertook a takeover. It'll go back up.
It's a buyers market, many companies that work in minerals are down down down and they will go back up. Don't have enough money to invest in gold...(gold might be the next bubble) invest in a good gold exploration company.....(as long as they're not working in Indonesia and pushing geologists out of helicopters....kkk)
Green tech companies are probably going to explode if the next wave to technology comes through and is viable. Take a look at ZENN and EESTOR....if EESTOR delivers then both are gonna jump huge. ZENN is well positioned to continue growing along a different route even if EESTOR doesn't hit. |
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Jati
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| crazy_arcade wrote: |
| It's a buyers market, many companies that work in minerals are down down down and they will go back up. Don't have enough money to invest in gold...(gold might be the next bubble) invest in a good gold exploration company.....(as long as they're not working in Indonesia and pushing geologists out of helicopters....kkk) |
Oh yeah, Bre-X circa 1995. Now *that* was some story. Did he jump? Was he pushed? Did they ever get the company president, who had fled to the Cayman Islands (if I remember correctly)?
Metals are a tough one. I was looking closely at Freeport-Mc-Moran (FCX) this fall until they cut their dividend. Now I am considering Enbridge (ENB) as a play on those Alberta oil sands projects. Any of you Canadians out there familiar with Enbridge? I don't want to be buying into another Bre-X.
BS.Dos., congratulations on owning a dictionary full of big words. Your degree (BA in ??) has prepared you well for commenting inanely on thread topics for which you obviously are both uninterested and uninformed. Perhaps you should start your own thread, something on the order of "I can use big words....can you?" Here's to hoping that your time with the meds and the therapist begin to produce results soon. |
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harryh
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: south of Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Companys to invest in:
Namyang Dairy (Korea)
Encore Oil
Aricom
Polo Resources
Rift Oil
Legal & General Group PLC
Schroders PLC
Eurasian Natural Resources Corp PLC
All cash rich companies, with many with more cash than the markets value them. They seem well positioned to ride out a recession, and even grow through aquisitions in some cases.
Not advising anyone to buy these, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. I'll be keeping these shares for a min of 5 years hopefully. I did my research and I'm happy with my decisions. |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Cash is trash.
When your beloved fiat unit is worth, say, nothing..
what difference how many you have?
Have things.
Stockpiles of necessities first.
Things you can use now, and barter when the time comes. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| mole wrote: |
Cash is trash.
When your beloved fiat unit is worth, say, nothing..
what difference how many you have?
Have things.
Stockpiles of necessities first.
Things you can use now, and barter when the time comes. |
Necessities such as...tinfoil hats? |
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harryh
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: south of Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mole wrote: |
Cash is trash.
When your beloved fiat unit is worth, say, nothing..
what difference how many you have?
Have things.
Stockpiles of necessities first.
Things you can use now, and barter when the time comes. |
As I said, do your own research as you will find the companies are making a profit still, and of course producing commodities.
If a company is valued at $40m by the stock market, and cash is $80m and the company is producing and and selling, and making a profit in the fourth quarter, they are better placed than a company producing, with debt and unable to get credit. to ride out difficult times.
As we know, obtaining credit is a big problem at the moment. |
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say invest in booze. When the economy stinks, people have more reasons to drink a hell of a lot more. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Personally, I don't invest in anything that I can't buy a decent amount of shares in. I like have 1000 shares...but any number from 500 and up will suffice. I have an American friend who buys into big big companies (like Microsoft and stuff) and I seriously can't see the sense in owning one share of a company. |
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bobbyhanlon
Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Personally, I don't invest in anything that I can't buy a decent amount of shares in. I like have 1000 shares...but any number from 500 and up will suffice. I have an American friend who buys into big big companies (like Microsoft and stuff) and I seriously can't see the sense in owning one share of a company. |
man, percentage-wise it makes no difference. besides one share of microsoft is only $19. actually microsoft looks a pretty good bet in my opinion, if you look at its valuation.
i think harryh has the best way of thinking so far on this board. namyang dairy looks a classic value play- low p/e, low debt, low p/b, and selling a product that people will buy regardless of how the economy is doing. |
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Jati
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| bobbyhanlon wrote: |
| crazy_arcade wrote: |
| Personally, I don't invest in anything that I can't buy a decent amount of shares in. I like have 1000 shares...but any number from 500 and up will suffice. I have an American friend who buys into big big companies (like Microsoft and stuff) and I seriously can't see the sense in owning one share of a company. |
man, percentage-wise it makes no difference. besides one share of microsoft is only $19. actually microsoft looks a pretty good bet in my opinion, if you look at its valuation. |
Not sure what you mean by percentage-wise, but it does make a difference if you pay a fixed broker fee for purchases. For example, if you use Charles Schwab online to buy Microsoft at $19.
One share = $19
Broker fee = $12.95
Broker fee = 40% of the total paid for 1 share ($31.95 = 1x12.95 + 1x19)
One hundred shares = $1,900
Broker fee = $12.95
Broker fee = 0.7% of the total paid for 100 shares ($1,912.95 = 1x12.95 + 100x19)
I think that that was what crazy_arcade was referring to, maybe not.
I like to buy enough shares so that the broker's fee is under 1%. |
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