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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Korean Architecture... Thoughts Reply with quote

When I first got to Korea I thought everything looked exactly the same. Now I can see different styles in architecture. I'll conceal my observations for now and just let you all discuss what you've observed.

Thanks... Smile
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thekakapo



Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stuff that's being build right now looks decent, but the skyline itself is pretty horrible- lots of buildings built on the cheap with little or no thought put into making a structure beautiful.

I think that Seoul in 20 years will be a very different place.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lacking tradition, cheaply built, mass-produced. Today's highrises are nicer than highrises of 10 years ago. It's sad to see older buildings not being preserved. I love the brick neighbourhoods in Seoul. Oh yeah, and I hate all the vanity projects that are popping up everywhere.

Seoul has been named World Design Capital 2010. It probably cost a lot in bribes so maybe we should try to be nice.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Older neighborhoods always have more character. When I ride the 1100/1101 into Seoul Station, my favorite is looking to the left up the hill and seeing the hundreds of little homes on the mountain.

Then I look at Incheon, Gimpo, or Songnae and get depressed Rolling Eyes
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Lacking tradition, cheaply built, mass-produced. Today's highrises are nicer than highrises of 10 years ago. It's sad to see older buildings not being preserved. I love the brick neighbourhoods in Seoul. Oh yeah, and I hate all the vanity projects that are popping up everywhere.


Totally agree. I remember the first time I came in the nineties, I hated the high rises and domino-like apartment buildings. Things have gotten much better in terms of modern architecture here.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Improving, but a long way to go yet.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of the things I miss about nyc - the architecture was so incredible - of course not much can compare w/that - but these high rise apts - I can see how it was necessary for a while to build housing for people - and the husband of my first director told me Ks feel safer in apts than houses - less crime, he said - but all the same - do they have to be built in such stark contrast to the landscape? where's the sense of aesthetics, of style?

a friend's husband is an architect - he builds homes - his are incredible, IMO, he blends western U.S. styles - ranch-like, large brick and wood structures - with K pagoda styles, some modern lines - very interesting and appealing. Unfortunately, they are homes, not large buildings a lot of people see. For some reason architects like him don't ever get a chance to build the larger buildings. until then, we're all limited in the skylines we will view.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always had this joke that the world's best architects were surely not born in Korea. Laughing Seoul has the ugliest architecture I have ever seen. It only looks good at night when it is all lit up. Laughing Seoul doesn't look much better than the videos I have seen of Pyongyang's buildings. Guess that isn't saying much. Now, Hong Kong, Singapore and Istanbul have some AMAZING architecture.

I guess the palaces would be about the only buildings in Seoul that look nice. That big green domed National Asssembly building is OK looking, but at night, actually looks good. I think the architecture coupled with the weather here can make someone who is naturally blue get even more depressed. Gray, cold and ugly in winter. Gray and wet and rainy all summer. Excuse me for my ranting, but wasn't this past summer the rainiest ever??? I swear, it rained like every Saturday from the middle of May until like the end of August. What in the world was up with that?
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Architecture... Thoughts Reply with quote

Ed Provencher wrote:
When I first got to Korea I thought everything looked exactly the same. Now I can see different styles in architecture. I'll conceal my observations for now and just let you all discuss what you've observed.

Thanks... Smile

Why is there a 'Thanks' added on the end?

Ahmmm...you're welcome!
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thekakapo wrote:
I think that Seoul in 20 years will be a very different place.


Of course it will. Architecture in Seoul is never meant to last more than 20 years.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first saw the title, I thought you were referring to Korean traditional architecture; then people only talked about contemporary architecture. I have to agree that the modern style that has been attempted in Korea is usually like it came from a cookie-cutter (or otherwise ugly when an architect tries something different). On the other hand, the traditional hanok buildings are wonders of beauty; every single piece that goes into making one has a name and a purpose and they all go together seamlessly. With that said, as the owner of one, they are a bear to keep up and have to be babied, especially during harsh seasons.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bangbayed wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
Lacking tradition, cheaply built, mass-produced. Today's highrises are nicer than highrises of 10 years ago. It's sad to see older buildings not being preserved. I love the brick neighbourhoods in Seoul. Oh yeah, and I hate all the vanity projects that are popping up everywhere.


Totally agree. I remember the first time I came in the nineties, I hated the high rises and domino-like apartment buildings. Things have gotten much better in terms of modern architecture here.


Better to look at, but still making a lot of the same mistakes as before, such as not planning for actual humans to live in the area and not really fitting into the surrounding area properly. A lot of these complexes are starting to forbid people from walking through, for example.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul is built on such a grand scale, but is terribly ugly and depressing to be honest about it. All the Korean cities I've seen are so butt ugly, but are built with a different intention than being aesthetically pleasing to the eye. The butt ugly buildings are very different on the inside; they're just cheap crap set up to house the many apartments, noraebongs, restaurants, soju bars, and such. Talk about the masses living on top of each other and taking a big dump on each other. Thew newer buildings look shinier and more aesthetically pleasing, but are still big polluters. It's like big doll house soap operas going on.

It's crudely built for the purpose of being functional, but groups of large 1990's versions don't look safe to in or near. They look like paper wafers stacked up being held together by a brittle white or creme cement. And they're also often very thin, but tall. They look like cheaply made disasters waiting to happen you'd buy at Wal*Mart if they sold big buildings. I don't like them and glad I don't have to live in one.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bukchon/Samcheong-dong is niceuh. Also the area northeast of Hongje station, Pyeongchang-dong, is absolutely beautiful, especially the road leading to the Jahamun Hotle.

For the most part, though, Seoul is dull at best, an eyesore at worst.
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John Ep



Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've spoken to a few architects here, the creative type, and they've said that it's impossible to make a living in Seoul. They have to get second jobs.

Given the state of the economy, I would guess that the function over form mentality isn't going to change any time soon.

I would also expect that the government will pour money into high profile projects that look good and allow them to fantasize about Seoul as the "hub of Asia," and only serve the super-rich.
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