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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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True that, yet certain people (I don't mean you) seem to think that's some sort of excuse.
To them:
Yes he did, yet the police were responsible for neither. When THEY arrived all they saw was a guy who was a potential danger risk to himself and others. He was smashing up airport property and needed to be restrained.
The police weren't aware that he'd spent the last 24 hours in somewhat stressful circumstances. All they saw was some lunatic going wild.
"Lunatic"? I mean come on, there are many immigrants who come to Canada (some not speaking English) and I'm sure some of them have/had to wait a while, yet THEY don't flip out and go wild.
It seems this guy had mental/anger issues to begin with.
Did he deserve to get tased? Probably not. But when you see armed uniformed men surrounding you and who seem angry/aggressive, it's probably a good idea not to escalate the situation (in ANY country, regardless of whether you can speak the language or not).
But he couldn't even control himself then. Which as it turned out was a recipe for disaster. But the bottom line is he bought it on himself...which DOESN'T mean that he deserved it. He simply did something very dumb and ended up paying the ultimate price. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Interesting read. Seems that a lot of people messed up in this situation.
-The mother should have had his flight information and given him better instructions about how to handle himself through the airport.
-Dziekański himself seemed unprepared for an international journey. Perhaps having important info written in english would have helped him a bit.
-The airport are asses. No doubt they could have found out that he was being 'delayed' and told his mother.
-Dziekański was being a bit of an ass in regards to throwing things and such. Go to a foreign country and pull that crap, you're bound to end up in trouble.
-The officers responding seemed far too fast on the draw. The video showed very little effort to calm the situation. Now, we could be missing parts... but it didn't look good.
-The airport was again being an ass for not supplying paramedics/security/translators to assist.
Basically, everyone was at fault in some way or another - but in the end, I think the officers involved should have been held more accountable. |
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Insidejohnmalkovich
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Pusan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Tasers are better than bullets or truncheons in some situations. The only problem is when tasers are used as a substitute for talking.
On the television documentary series "Inside" about the prison system, one of the guards says his mouth is his most effective tool, meaning that negotation is the best defuser of most violence.
That said, many violent criminals are best shot outright by the police, especially since if captured they will probably not be executed. |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2008/12/29/daily8.html
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Taser International Inc. announced Monday it has received an order for 550 stun guns from the South Korean National Police Agency as that country seeks to expand the use of such devices.
Scottsdale-based Taser (Nasdaq:TASR) did not disclose terms of the deal. The company has placed its electronic control devices with law enforcement agencies in 40 countries. |
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