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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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 Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:25 am Post subject: Hours |
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I got a new schedule today (48 hours in advance!)... but, here's the deal. I figure the weekly hours one way and it's 37 thereby qualifying me for 7 hours of overtime a week. But I figure them another way and it's 23 hours a week. Of course, my boss also then asked me to eat pizza with her and her daughters... she didn't like me at first cause I was a guy teacher, but after the first month, she's been really nice to me. Should I stand pat, should I make a stink?
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justagirl
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Please explain how there can be 14 hours difference. 
What does your contract say? Does it say one class=1 hour, or one hour=60 minutes?
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't specify the length of a class hour... gotta love vagueness. So, since each of my classes is 50 minutes, I'm technically teaching for 23 hours a week... but with 10 minute breaks and about 30 minutes both before and after school, I'm on the premises doing school related activities for 37 hours.
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4.1 During the term of this Agreement the Employee shall accept, obey, and strictly comply with the instructions, supervision, training, and discipline of the Academic Director and shall carry out such assignments as directed by the Academic Director. These duties shall include ESL instruction in all phases of the program, administrative duties related to the Employee, classroom duties, administrative at scheduled staff meetings, workshops, and school-sponsored outings, and any other duties with are appropriate may be assigned by the Academic Director. The Academic Director is responsible for establishing standards of performance relative to the Employee and empowered to take necessary steps to assure that those standards are met.
4.2 The employee will be required to complete work assigned for a total time of 120 class hours a month ( 30 hours a week ) The academic director can request the employee to work up to (40 hours) a week with any hours worked over (120 hours a month) being at an overtime rate of (18,000won) an hour.
4.3 . The teacher would be expected to be at school prior to the start of the first lesson and always be prompt to attend all timetabled classes during the day. The teacher is also expected to do suitable professionally organized preparation, prior to any classes, and may
Be requested to attend organized staff meetings, and evaluate and report students� progress.
5. COMPENSATION AND OTHER TREATMENT OF EMPLOYEE
5.4. Salary
The institute shall pay employee a monthly base salary of ( 2,000,000 million won) Each monthly session is Maximum 120 hours). Payment of the salary will be in won. This payment will be made on school pay day one month later from the first teaching day. All applicable Korean taxes (5%) will be deducted and a pay docket provided to the employee showing all hours worked, total payments and all deductions made.
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I feel like I should understand this stuff, but it just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| 30 minutes before and after school would not count anywhere you teach. the 50 minute class rule is custom not law. your contract does not stipulate that each hour counts as 50 minutes, so NO you are not teaching overtime. |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Nope.........sorry dear, but if your contract doesn't specify, then class minutes.....is not counted for an hour.....and like the person above said the prep and break is not paid or included either.......... Welcome to the world of the first year contract! |
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Mankind
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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The 30 before and after you get squat. However try to get each 50 minute class concidered an hour. Act like thats what it is. Say to your boss, so I'l be at 33 hours this month? See how she responds and explain why you think it is. You might get it.
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's probably not a bad idea... I guess I feel like I'm not really needing to do anything unless I end up being on the school premises doing work for more than 40 hours a week (since 40 is the standard work week in America) ... I'm feeling that's kind of the cutoff between just sittin' back and doing my work versus starting to make this an issue at work and potentially headin' on home if things don't get resolved...
I've just heard that alot of hagwans will start you low hours then increase and increase until you're boned... so I gotta set a personal limit I guess. |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I worked at many hogwons and here is what I learned as per hours:
50 minute classes= 1 hour of teaching
40 minute classes= 40 minutes of teaching
As for having to be there 1 hour before your first class, prep, etc. Those did not count as hours worked. So, the way I see it is that your boss only counts your time in class as hours taught, and that since your classes are 50 minutes they count as 1 teaching hour.
1 class= 1 hour
2 classes= 2 hours
and so on. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say no to OT.
You are also getting paid to prepare. SO say it takes you 3mins to get back to the office after your 50mins is up, then 5mins to prepare for the next class (get books/handouts etc ready) then go to the next class, you will find those 10mins are gone pretty fast. |
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