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Big_Bird
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Unlike the top leadership in the Bush administration who sent other people's children to fight their silly ill-thought out war in Iraq, but had never risked their own lives, nor those of their children, in a war.. |
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Jandar
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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I guess when your strategy is to level whole neighbourhoods, you will eventually get your target after killing off a few dozen civilians. Way to discourage people from becoming terrorists.  |
They were the terrorists kids, and future suicide bombers if you read the article at all. |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Unlike you, BB....George W. Bush is probably the most enlightened and greatest leader of the 21st century. I for one, am sorry to see him leave office. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
Unlike the top leadership in the Bush administration who sent other people's children to fight their silly ill-thought out war in Iraq, but had never risked their own lives, nor those of their children, in a war.. |
No comparison, very weak.
Continue to support Hamas they do not love your children.
Hamas motto: "You love life, we love death"
Remember that. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevor wrote: |
Slogans, slogans, slogans. You don't have an argument, but damn, you have AIPAC and swell marketing.
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Slogan of the year!
Hamas says: "You love live, but we love death"
Here's your slogan, slogan, slogan.
You don't have an argument.
Your slogan speaks for itself. |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Jandar wrote: |
| bangbayed wrote: |
| I guess when your strategy is to level whole neighbourhoods, you will eventually get your target after killing off a few dozen civilians. Way to discourage people from becoming terrorists. |
They were the terrorists kids, and future suicide bombers if you read the article at all. |
In other words, "vermin"? Thanks for playing. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| Hamas Slogan: "You love life, but we love death" |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Jandar wrote: |
| Hamas Slogan: "You love life, but we love death" |
If so, why do they use civilians as human shields? They should just come out and meet the Israelis head-on. They're either liars or pussies if they don't after using that as a slogan. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Haw. The guy couldn't find his own maps so he asked me to find it for him -- AND we're still waiting to hear what significance the map had to his argument, anyway.
So, sorry, gotta nix that. I am the clear winner, intellectually and morally, while the spinmeisters try to dream up some more new slogans for their baseless and shallow arguments.
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| Trevor wrote: |
(Yawn....) Bitter, reproachful, fingerpointing Israel supporters who have gotten the floor kicked out from under them and have nothing left to formulate an argument upon but their dimestore slogans. It only gets worse, fellas. Next week is the ground offensive. Want to take a guess what the jpegs are going to look like?    There'll be some Pulitzer prize winners on CNN and Fox. If you can't get your dog and pony show together now, how are you going to hold up then?  |
We'll wait until we see if CNN and Fox are going to follow Reuters' lead and manufacture fake photographs.
And oh by the way, you are the one clearly getting thrashed in this argument...you can't even get your maps straight. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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They don't come out in the open to meet the Israelis head-on for the same reason that General George Wanshington's army didn't come out in the open to meet the redcoats head-on during the American revolution: they are exponentially outnumbered and outgunned.
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| Jandar wrote: |
| Hamas Slogan: "You love life, but we love death" |
If so, why do they use civilians as human shields? They should just come out and meet the Israelis head-on. They're either liars or pussies if they don't after using that as a slogan. |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| Jandar wrote: |
| Hamas Slogan: "You love life, but we love death" |
If so, why do they use civilians as human shields? They should just come out and meet the Israelis head-on. They're either liars or pussies if they don't after using that as a slogan. |
This is rich stuff. Jandar says that's Hamas' slogan and you just take his word for it without proof? Nevermind the fact that you seem to be disagreeing with it and agreeing with it at the same time.
Pretty much tells you the direction this 'debate' is going. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
Unlike the top leadership in the Bush administration who sent other people's children to fight their silly ill-thought out war in Iraq, but had never risked their own lives, nor those of their children, in a war.. |
Facts are indeed funny things. Here are a few more for you to ponder. Those "other people's children" are virtually adults...sure they can't drink until they are 21, but that's about it. Further more, the American army is all-volunteer. Pretty much all the top leadership in the Bush adminstration is too old to serve and if their children would rather enter another line of employment...that's their choice. However those who entered the army knew what they could expect. You don't enter the army if your idea of a good time is bringing happiness and light to other people's lives.
Seriously it's starting to sound like you want to take away certain people's rights and compel them to serve in the military should they have the misfortune to have a parent in a political position who started a war.
Otherwise your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense. In that case it's simply stating well-known facts, but doesn't seem to have any real point behind it. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| bangbayed wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| Jandar wrote: |
| Hamas Slogan: "You love life, but we love death" |
If so, why do they use civilians as human shields? They should just come out and meet the Israelis head-on. They're either liars or pussies if they don't after using that as a slogan. |
This is rich stuff. Jandar says that's Hamas' slogan and you just take his word for it without proof? Nevermind the fact that you seem to be disagreeing with it and agreeing with it at the same time.
Pretty much tells you the direction this 'debate' is going. |
Notice the bolded part of my post?
The rest of my post was based on that "if" (although I'll admit I wouldn't have a hard time believing they said it). Not sure about the 'offical slogan' part, but whatever. They spew a bunch of ridiculous bile, so would it be surprising? |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| bangbayed wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| Jandar wrote: |
| Hamas Slogan: "You love life, but we love death" |
If so, why do they use civilians as human shields? They should just come out and meet the Israelis head-on. They're either liars or pussies if they don't after using that as a slogan. |
This is rich stuff. Jandar says that's Hamas' slogan and you just take his word for it without proof? Nevermind the fact that you seem to be disagreeing with it and agreeing with it at the same time.
Pretty much tells you the direction this 'debate' is going. |
Notice the bolded part of my post?
The rest of my post was based on that "if" (although I'll admit I wouldn't have a hard time believing they said it). Not sure about the 'offical slogan' part, but whatever. They spew a bunch of ridiculous bile, so would it be surprising? |
Yeah, I didn't mean to come off so harsh cuz I generally do like your posts, but I just didn't seem to get your point. A clause after "If so," is generally one that disputes what was said. However "using civilians as human shields" kind of agrees with the alleged 'slogan'. Maybe I'm being too picky, I've been writing a paper on Functional Grammar and the stuff gets to you. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Let's just chalk up my lack of clarity to frustration. Apparently I'm not alone in that department as noone seems to have a good answer.
(..and don't critique my post over the grammar errors. It's f'in late and I'm tired.) |
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