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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Seoul Schools to Hire More Foreign Teachers Reply with quote

I thought the Ministry of Education (that guy in charge) didn't have much expectation with foreigners. Am I getting mixed signals?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/01/117_37389.html

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Seoul Schools to Hire More Foreign Teachers

By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter

Seoul's education authorities plan to set up English-only classes at more than 200 schools.

The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education said Tuesday it will expand English-only programs to an additional 200 elementary and secondary schools and employ 200 more native English speakers by the end of the year.

If the plan is completed, a total of 1,050 native English assistant teachers will be placed at the city's schools and 500 schools will run English-only classes.

``Parents spend a lot of money for English education. To reduce private education costs, we will set up English-only classes at all schools by 2010 and place all native English speakers at all schools by 2012,'' said an education office official.

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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Lee Myung Bag`s plan for full English instruction was shot down?
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Seoul Schools to Hire More Foreign Teachers Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
I thought the Ministry of Education (that guy in charge) didn't have much expectation with foreigners. Am I getting mixed signals?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/01/117_37389.html

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Seoul Schools to Hire More Foreign Teachers

By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter

Seoul's education authorities plan to set up English-only classes at more than 200 schools.

The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education said Tuesday it will expand English-only programs to an additional 200 elementary and secondary schools and employ 200 more native English speakers by the end of the year.

If the plan is completed, a total of 1,050 native English assistant teachers will be placed at the city's schools and 500 schools will run English-only classes.

``Parents spend a lot of money for English education. To reduce private education costs, we will set up English-only classes at all schools by 2010 and place all native English speakers at all schools by 2012,'' said an education office official.

[email protected]


All native speakers will be at all schools? If public school teachers thought that their schedules were hectic before ...

Whistleblower;

Love your new avatar, and the fact that "parrot" is misspelled is gravy.
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GoldMember



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!


I think shortly we`ll see a new article talking about the Singaporean, Indians, etc being included in this "ambitious" native speaker venture.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
I thought Lee Myung Bag`s plan for full English instruction was shot down?


So was the canal, but they're still building it.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/01/123_37423.html
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Xuanzang wrote:
I thought Lee Myung Bag`s plan for full English instruction was shot down?


So was the canal, but they're still building it.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/01/123_37423.html


I guess his cronies at Hyundai construction need public works money in these economic times.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!

Korea: Education at a Glance 2008: OECD Indicators--Indicator D3: How much are teachers paid?
(Note: in equivalent USD converted using PPPs)
--Primary education--
Starting Salary: 30,528
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,666
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,262
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.29

--Secodary education--
Starting Salary: 30,405
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,543
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,139
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.28
Table D3.1. Teachers' salaries (2006)--Annual statutory teachers' salaries in public institutions at starting salary, after 15 years of experience and at the top of the scale by level of education, in equivalent USD converted using PPPs
Last updated: 04-Sep-2008
Excel File for download: http://ocde.p4.siteinternet.com/publications/doifiles/962008041P1G025.xls
Main Website address: http://www.oecd.org/document/9/0,3343,en_2649_39263238_41266761_1_1_1_1,00.html

Teachers' salaries -- From The Economist (Sep 27th 2007)
http://www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9867632
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Teaching in Turkey and South Korea has a very high status, with earnings more than double the average income per head....

Teacher Labor Markets in Developed Countries: The Future of Children
http://www.futureofchildren.org/information2850/information_show.htm?doc_id=470797
image link: http://www.futureofchildren.org/doc_img/470797.gif

Teachers in Korea have guaranteed tenure until they reach the mandatory retirement age.
Attracting, Developing and Retaining Effective Teachers
Country Note: Korea
John Coolahan, Paulo Santiago, Rowena Phair and Akira Ninomiya
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, Directorate for Education, Education and Training Policy Division
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/26/49/31690991.pdf

Foreign Scholars Merit Equal Status
JoongAng Daily (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1904927
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According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect....

Racial Superiority Is the Problem
by Han Kyung-koo, Chosun Ilbo (August 29, 2007)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200708/200708290007.html
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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing that I have noticed about senior managers in Korea (especially in G'ment) they say something like "We shall hire more native teachers" but they don't do anything and expect all the other staff to do the work.

Korea, the land of delegation.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!


SMOE doesn't have a problem getting people....it does seem to attract a different crowd than the hagwons....and many qualified, certificated teachers to boot and those with experience.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
GoldMember wrote:
Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!


I think shortly we`ll see a new article talking about the Singaporean, Indians, etc being included in this "ambitious" native speaker venture.


Except that they're not native speakers. They might be fluent in English, and they might make great teachers, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they have no problem getting people then WHY are they CONSTANTLY advertising?
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Xuanzang wrote:
GoldMember wrote:
Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!


I think shortly we`ll see a new article talking about the Singaporean, Indians, etc being included in this "ambitious" native speaker venture.


Except that they're not native speakers. They might be fluent in English, and they might make great teachers, though.


Not G7 native but "native" aka cheap enough to be considered as such by the bonehead Lee young-chan and co.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Troll_Bait wrote:
Xuanzang wrote:
GoldMember wrote:
Somewhere the Korean Masterminds behind this plan have left out one crucial factor, mmm what could it be. I've got it! to get all these people you need to pay decent wages!


I think shortly we`ll see a new article talking about the Singaporean, Indians, etc being included in this "ambitious" native speaker venture.


Except that they're not native speakers. They might be fluent in English, and they might make great teachers, though.


Not G7 native but "native" aka cheap enough to be considered as such by the bonehead Lee young-chan and co.

Who are you calling a bonehead?

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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul Schools to Hire More Foreign Teachers Reply with quote

[quote="Whistleblower"]I thought the Ministry of Education (that guy in charge) didn't have much expectation with foreigners. Am I getting mixed signals?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/01/117_37389.html

Quote:
Seoul Schools to Hire More Foreign Teachers

By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter

Seoul's education authorities plan to set up English-only classes at more than 200 schools.

The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education said Tuesday it will expand English-only programs to an additional 200 elementary and secondary schools and employ 200 more native English speakers by the end of the year.

If the plan is completed, a total of 1,050 native English assistant teachers will be placed at the city's schools and 500 schools will run English-only classes.


Absolutely zero of these classes will be 'English-only', but I guess they can go on deluding themselves.

Love the new avatar, btw.
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