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mises
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 Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: The Good News From a Bad Year |
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http://www.reason.com/news/show/130861.html
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/01/top-ten-reasons-things-are-still.html
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1. Crime rates are falling.
2. Sex crimes are down.
3. The divorce rate is at its lowest point in four decades.
4. Life expectancy is up.
5. Mortality rates for eight of the 10 leading causes of death in America are dropping. Deaths from the two biggest killers�cancer and heart disease�have been in decline for a decade. Deaths from the third leading cause of death, stroke, are also down.
6. For six years, both incidence of and deaths from cancer have been in decline.
7. Since 1991, fewer teens are having sex, fewer are having sex with multiple partners, and more are using condoms when they do engage in intercourse.
8. The abortion rate is also at its lowest point in 30 years.
9. Juvenile violent crime is still 40% lower than it was in 1994. The juvenile murder rate is a whopping 73% below its high in 1993.
10. We have more leisure time. Americans work on average eight fewer hours per week than we did in the 1960s. |
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Hater Depot
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| The abortion rate is also at its lowest point in 30 years. |
Likely because the campaign of intimidation against abortion doctors has been very successful in reducing availability of services in rural areas, which are already more likely to be in states with legislatures hostile to abortion rights. Unless the total of unwanted pregnancies is genuinely going down, I'm not sure this represents much reason to rejoice. |
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caniff
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| The abortion rate is also at its lowest point in 30 years. |
Unless the total of unwanted pregnancies is genuinely going down, I'm not sure this represents much reason to rejoice. |
Good point. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The abortion rate is also at its lowest point in 30 years. |
Likely because the campaign of intimidation against abortion doctors has been very successful in reducing availability of services in rural areas, which are already more likely to be in states with legislatures hostile to abortion rights. Unless the total of unwanted pregnancies is genuinely going down, I'm not sure this represents much reason to rejoice. |
I'd like to see some data on this. Not saying you're wrong, but.. |
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Hater Depot
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Took me awhile, but here you go. It's not up to date, but there's no reason to think these trends have reversed.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3500603.html
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| The number of abortion providers decreased by 11% to 1,819 (46% were clinics, 33% hospitals and 21% physicians' offices); clinics provided 93% of all abortions in 2000. In that year, 34% of women aged 15-44 lived in the 87% of counties with no provider, and 86 of the nation's 276 metropolitan areas had no provider. |
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VanIslander
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Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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it's actually been a good year for most of us on dave's according to a recent poll
you've got media overload man, don't let the hype get to ya! |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
Took me awhile, but here you go. It's not up to date, but there's no reason to think these trends have reversed.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3500603.html
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| The number of abortion providers decreased by 11% to 1,819 (46% were clinics, 33% hospitals and 21% physicians' offices); clinics provided 93% of all abortions in 2000. In that year, 34% of women aged 15-44 lived in the 87% of counties with no provider, and 86 of the nation's 276 metropolitan areas had no provider. |
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I think that link (which I just just glanced at) actually just reinforces the claim in my OP. Abortions are down. If the demand for a product is down, less of the product will be offered. Less abortions = less abortion doctors.
I have no evidence either way as to decreased abortions are due to decreased Dr's (due to intimidation) or if decreased abortions have decreased the supply of Dr's.. |
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canuckistan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| An aging population has its benefits. |
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| An aging population has its benefits. |
Yep, I wonder if this is the real reason for most of those decreases. |
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michaelambling
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: Re: The Good News From a Bad Year |
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| 7. Since 1991, fewer teens are having sex, fewer are having sex with multiple partners, and more are using condoms when they do engage in intercourse. |
Why, exactly, is this a good thing? I'm 28; when I was a teen, I wasn't exactly going at it like a rabbit, but I got my fair share. So did my friends and people I knew, without any of us getting pregnant, a fatal STD, or anything too severe.
I feel bad for teens nowadays. Stuck in a vortex of Myspace and Facebook, IMing a myriad of people thousands of miles away, not knowing the joys and difficulties of an intimate personal relationship with a close friend or lover. On top of that, they're more religious than we were, more sheepish, less critical, less independent, and more boring as a result.
A couple of years ago I was speaking to a younger girl (just starting at Stanford) and I was criticizing the anti-smoking ads in California as part of a nanny state. After someone had to explain to her what this meant, she said, "what's wrong with the government telling us what to do?" Chills went down my spine.
I really feel like an old man now...  |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| ha, plenty of teenagers are getting some. I seriously doubt it is a big decrease. And at least more are using protection. |
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