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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: More Possible Immigration Restrictions for Foreign Teachers |
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http://atek.or.kr/
January 5, 2008 � FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Amendment to Immigration Control Act Proposed to Korean National Assembly
LEAD: On December 30, 2008, a bill was introduced to the Korean National Assembly proposing an amendment of the Immigration Control Act. The Association for Teachers of English in Korea responds.
On December 30, 2008, a bill was introduced to the Korean National Assembly proposing an amendment of the Immigration Control Act. The bill seeks to establish the "legal basis to require foreigners applying for an employment visa to submit a criminal background check and health certificate" [1].
A complete translation of the reasons (제안이유) for the bill's introduction is as follows: "Nowadays, the number of foreigners working in Korea is increasing, but a good many [Korean: 상당수] have previous convictions for drug and sexual crimes or carry infectious diseases. As we require measures to deal with the threat they pose to our society's public order and our people's health, we herein prepare the legal basis to require that foreigners applying for an employment visa submit a criminal background check and a health certificate." [1]
E-2 visa holders are already required by the Korea Immigration Service to submit to drug checks, medical checks including an HIV test, and criminal background checks, however, the proposed bill states the revision would apply to "foreigners applying for an employment visa". This is a markedly larger group of foreigners than just E-2 visa holders. Further, by becoming an Act of the National Assembly, it becomes much more difficult to challenge.
An identical bill was introduced to the National Assembly on October 24, 2007 (5 days after the arrest of Christopher Paul Neil on October 19, 2007), but consideration was delayed due to the BBK controversy, and it expired with the adjournment of the 17th session of the National Assembly.
The October 2007 bill was introduced by twelve Members of the National Assembly. The December 2008 bill was introduced by 18 Members and is said to represent a broad political consensus. It is scheduled for vote within the next two months. The bill (in Korean) is available in PDF from the Association for Teachers of English in Korea (ATEK). See below for contact information.
The Association for Teachers of English in Korea (ATEK) calls on the author(s) of this bill to provide their evidence that "a good many" (상당수) foreigners working in Korea have previous convictions for drug and sexual crimes or carry infectious diseases. Obviously, with the stringent checks being done on E-2 visa holders, they are not part of the "good many" foreigners mentioned. How many E-1, E-6, E-7, and/or C-4 visa holders have been discovered to have criminal convictions or infectious diseases? This evidence cannot be produced because it does not exist.
Names of the 18 Members introducing the December 2008 bill:
신학용 - 박기춘 - 구본철 - 송영선 - 안민석 - 김희철 - 박종희 - 김우남 - 양정례
김종률 - 강성종 - 김충환 - 심재철 - 박상돈 - 진성호 - 원혜영 - 김성곤 - 강창일
Names of the 12 Members introducing the October 2007 bill:
신학용 - 강창일 - 박상돈 - 김태년 - 김영주 - 정봉주 - 이계안 - 한광원 - 송영길 - 김교흥 - 김부겸 - 홍미영
About the Association for Teachers of English in Korea
The Association for Teachers of English in Korea (ATEK) is a newly forming group representing teachers of English in Korea. Media inquiries are handled by Communications Director Tony Hellmann, at [email protected] e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it or 010-3993-2484.
[1] Based on a translation of the original document |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:13 am Post subject: |
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What more could they possibly want from us. Our first molar?  |
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mekku
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Location: daegu, korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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perhaps i read this thoroughly (as well one should before commenting on it)....but as far as i can tell, this won't affect the majority of foreign teachers as we are here on e-2 visas (and this doesn't apply to e-2 holders)
if you are E-1, E-6, E-7, and/or C-4 visa holders, then maybe you will come under the same requirements as an e-2, namely the cbc and health certificate. it's no big deal....
i will profess ignorance for what other 'teaching' visas there are besides the e-2, but what i got from this article is that nothing will change...for me anyway |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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but what i got from this article is that nothing will change...for me anyway |
It's not an article- it's a press release. If ATEK has done its homework then it's ahead of the curve with warning everyone about possible added requirements for many foreigners in Korea. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
What more could they possibly want from us. Our first molar?  |
Who is "us"? This is not directed at E2 holders. They already have to submit the documents. This bill is being introduced to EXPAND this to all other foreign work visa holders, and codify it as a law (gee, does it come as a surprise that what E2'ers have to do is not an actual law? Just Immigration's made up powertrip BS) |
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u05emk2
Joined: 28 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Is it true that the CRC now also require fingerprints? If so, does anyone know if you can get the printing done in Korea and simply add it to a CRC that has been produced in one's home country? |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Is it true that the CRC now also require fingerprints? |
The fingerprinting issue is separate from the CRC, unless your CRC-issuing agency in your own country require fingerprints (eg. RCMP). ALL foreigners (not just those on work visas) will be required to provided biometric data to Immigration (or so it has been proposed). |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Korea really doesn't want me to stick around! |
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Tony (ATEK)
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
Xuanzang wrote: |
What more could they possibly want from us. Our first molar?  |
Who is "us"? This is not directed at E2 holders. They already have to submit the documents. This bill is being introduced to EXPAND this to all other foreign work visa holders, and codify it as a law (gee, does it come as a surprise that what E2'ers have to do is not an actual law? Just Immigration's made up powertrip BS) |
This will require "E-2 style" checks for foreign migrant workers (not "us"), professors ("us"), entertainers ("not us"), and English camp workers ("us"). Where it will affect the E-2 visa holders is just that it will be much harder to modify these regulations after they are codified by an Act of the National Assembly.
Hub of Sparkle has some interesting commentary. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Tony (ATEK) wrote: |
Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
Xuanzang wrote: |
What more could they possibly want from us. Our first molar?  |
Who is "us"? This is not directed at E2 holders. They already have to submit the documents. This bill is being introduced to EXPAND this to all other foreign work visa holders, and codify it as a law (gee, does it come as a surprise that what E2'ers have to do is not an actual law? Just Immigration's made up powertrip BS) |
This will require "E-2 style" checks for foreign migrant workers (not "us"), professors ("us"), entertainers ("not us"), and English camp workers ("us"). |
Right. Foreign work visa holders.
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Where it will affect the E-2 visa holders is just that it will be much harder to modify these regulations after they are codified by an Act of the National Assembly. |
It might be harder to modify, but with it codified as an Act, there *should* (I know, I know) be some standards and less of the Immigration-doing-what-they-wish-on-any-given-day inconsistencies we get from office-to-office and officer-to-officer. |
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Xuanzang

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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Before was tongue in cheek. I know these new ones arent aimed at E2ers but I feel they just open the floodgates for more tests and bureaucratic BS. E2ers are the guinea pigs anyway for powertripping officials and their messed up laws. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
E2ers are the guinea pigs anyway for powertripping officials and their messed up laws. |
What laws? |
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Tony (ATEK)
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
Tony (ATEK) wrote: |
Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
Xuanzang wrote: |
What more could they possibly want from us. Our first molar?  |
Who is "us"? This is not directed at E2 holders. They already have to submit the documents. This bill is being introduced to EXPAND this to all other foreign work visa holders, and codify it as a law (gee, does it come as a surprise that what E2'ers have to do is not an actual law? Just Immigration's made up powertrip BS) |
This will require "E-2 style" checks for foreign migrant workers (not "us"), professors ("us"), entertainers ("not us"), and English camp workers ("us"). |
Right. Foreign work visa holders.
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Where it will affect the E-2 visa holders is just that it will be much harder to modify these regulations after they are codified by an Act of the National Assembly. |
It might be harder to modify, but with it codified as an Act, there *should* (I know, I know) be some standards and less of the Immigration-doing-what-they-wish-on-any-given-day inconsistencies we get from office-to-office and officer-to-officer. |
What I am interested to see is if it will die in committee. If the Legal Committee (where it is currently) decides it is unconstitutional, then its finished. However, if it gets made into law, that law may have to be tested and taken to the Constitutional Court for a ruling. We'll be monitoring what happens and letting everyone know as we know.
Those who want the fastest updates should either join our Facebook Cause or monitor my blog. |
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wylies99

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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Those who want the fastest updates should either join our Facebook Cause or monitor my blog. |
Not everyone has the time to read yet another blog about teaching or working or living in Korea( ), and not everyone is on facebook. Since you are an active poster on this website, feel free to post the relevant press releases on this site. Everyone knows this is the most read site for this industry in Korea, so, obviously, you'll reach more people by posting here. |
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Tony (ATEK)
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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wylies99 wrote: |
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Those who want the fastest updates should either join our Facebook Cause or monitor my blog. |
Not everyone has the time to read yet another blog about teaching or working or living in Korea( ), and not everyone is on facebook. Since you are an active poster on this website, feel free to post the relevant press releases on this site. Everyone knows this is the most read site for this industry in Korea, so, obviously, you'll reach more people by posting here. |
It isn't a blog about any of those things. Yes, we're aware not everyone is on facebook. There's only one me, and I send stuff out to subscribers first, my blog second, the media third, and forums like this one fourth. I didn't say I wouldn't post here. I said those who want the fastest updates should either join our Facebook Cause or monitor my blog, which can be found at the previous link and on the ATEK website. |
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