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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Bar for Foreign English Teachers Raised Reply with quote

Bar for Foreign English Teachers Raised
Chosun Ilbo (January 8, 2009)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200901/200901080010.html
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Native English speakers who want to teach the language in Korea will face tougher regulations for a work visa....

The law requires those wishing to obtain the E-2 visa to submit a police certificate of their personal criminal history issued in the country of citizenship or residence and stamped by the Korean embassy. The new version also requires the applicants to hand in a health certificate to show the person has no infectious or sexually transmitted diseases, and a transcript from the last educational institution attended in a sealed envelope.

The new rules come in response to public perception that some foreign English teachers are little more than cowboys....

The revision will go into effect from the end of March after approval by the Cabinet.

Are you a "cowboy?"
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm... aren't these the same regulations that are in place currently?

WTF is this stamp from the Korean Embassy? I'm in Korea and probably will stay for a third year. Does that mean I have to go all the way back to Migook to get a dumb stamp in Chicago?

Korea, Sparklingly vague as usual.
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jay-shi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:

Are you a "cowboy?"


That depends. Are we talking steel horse riding cowboy or the Brokeback Mountain variety?
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Cerriowen



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was written last year... I think the part he was emphasizing was the "cowboy" part.

And... When I came to work the first thing my principal asked me was "You can ride horse? You are Cowgirl?" And was thrilled when I said I could.

I was so tempted to tell him "All you gotta do it spread your legs and hold on!"
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cerriowen wrote:
That was written last year... I think the part he was emphasizing was the "cowboy" part.

And... When I came to work the first thing my principal asked me was "You can ride horse? You are Cowgirl?" And was thrilled when I said I could. I was so tempted to tell him "All you gotta do it spread your legs and hold on!"

Article: Updated Jan. 8, 2009 09:26 KST

Bar for Foreign English Teachers Raised
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200901/200901080010.html
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inkoreaforgood



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The E-2 visa is valid for two years and is issued to nationals of seven countries where the native language is English, including Australia, the U.K. and the U.S.


Since when? That's new, and I'm guessing a misquote.
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afsjesse



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see anything that is new in this bill. Unless they will make you get a stamp on your CBC from the embassy.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps, cowboys actually earn more? Should you demand the salary of a cowboy?
The average salary for a cowboy is $49,000.
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Average Cowboy Salaries
The average salary for Cowboy jobs is $49,000....
This salary was calculated using the average salary for all jobs with the term "Cowboy" anywhere in the job listing....

Source:
Simply Hired: The Job Search Made Simple
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-Cowboy
Of course, there are lower paying "cowboy" jobs.
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Following the numbers of the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics from the year 2003, you shouldn't expect to earn much more than $20,000 per annum.

Modern Cowboy Jobs - More Than Campfire Romantic
By Oswald Eppers
http://ezinearticles.com/?Modern-Cowboy-Jobs---More-Than-Campfire-Romantic&id=1042403
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says the E-2 visa is now valid for 2 years and requires a clean criminal record. This means a sparkling clean record with no blemishes. What is a health certificate? Aren't blood and urine tests already performed on said cowboys? Korea is battening down the hatches once again.


Yeeee! Haaaa! How many cowboys want to live in Asia? 0 cuz they love to be in American rural country. I thought that was so comical to put in the press that the public perception is English teachers are little more than cowboys. Cowboys where I come from would NOT step foot on a big shiny jet and definitely would NOT step foot on some strange land over yonder. And they definitely wouldn't wear that sick pukey cowboy style common in Itaewon shops. How funny. LMAO!

Could you imagine a cowboy visiting Korea singing in a bar, "all my exs live in texas," and then he says,"Yee, haa! when I return back to cowboy country, boyz I will be singing, "all my exs live in Korea," cuz they some mighty fine looker hunneees here."
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Easter Clark



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't you have to sign a 2-year contract in order to be issued a 2-year visa? That just doesn't make sense. Standard procedure in Japan used to be to issue 3-year work visas owned by the employee. It would be nice to see Korea go that direction.
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justaguy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Wouldn't you have to sign a 2-year contract in order to be issued a 2-year visa? That just doesn't make sense. Standard procedure in Japan used to be to issue 3-year work visas owned by the employee. It would be nice to see Korea go that direction.


It'll never happen. If you did 2 years in the Korean Army then I think they might give you the same freedoms a Korean has.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you imagine how many people would up and quit their jobs if they gave use freedom to move around?
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jboney



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hell yeah I'm a cowboy! but where are the heifers?
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justaguy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Can you imagine how many people would up and quit their jobs if they gave use freedom to move around?


Can you imagine how many people wouldn't tell Immigration where they moved to or even where they worked?
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justaguy wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Can you imagine how many people would up and quit their jobs if they gave use freedom to move around?


Can you imagine how many people wouldn't tell Immigration where they moved to or even where they worked?


You know how Hagwons are a giant cartel? If E2 holders were allowed to quit and work where they please, you better believe the hagwons would change their contracts with some stipulation that would make people think twice about leaving the job.
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