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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: The 120-hour thing Reply with quote

Well I got a surprise. A good one.

You know how a lot of hagwon contracts are for 120 hours/month? Well it's been my experience that that is just an estimate where what they really mean is 30 classes/week, classes being 45 or 50 minutes long.

In the past, my employers have done the salary thing where partial months are paid daily. So if you make 2.4 million (giving it a rounded figure), that means you make 80,000 Won/day since the salary is divided by the number of days in a month. One job, an after-school deal with WIN EDUCATION, tried to divided my monthly salary by the number of days in the month and only apply that daily figure to workweek days, excluding weekend days that they counted in their caculations (they did this among other shady things and they found out how please I was about it all).

Anyway, gettting back to the ranch, my new job pays me hourly. Just like a job would back home. So anything over 120 classes is OT. In most months, I teach more than 20 days. So in a month where I teach 22 days, I get 12 hours of OT. On top of the OT I get 3 times a week (one hour MWF). It's awesome. If I teach under the 120 classes, I still get my base salary, of course. And OT outside my contracted schedule remains OT no matter how many classes I teach.

Much better.
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ChinaBoy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't get paid hourly since there is a base salary. You get OT for any hours over 120.
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red_devil



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is where some Hagwons try to make your week hours a bit lighter, and then hit you with weekend work keeping you within the 30 hour/week limit so they don't have to pay you OT. So make sure you have "NO WEEKEND WORK" or "WEEKEND WORK OPTION AND PAID OT" in your contract.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The 120-hour thing Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Well I got a surprise. A good one.

You know how a lot of hagwon contracts are for 120 hours/month? Well it's been my experience that that is just an estimate where what they really mean is 30 classes/week, classes being 45 or 50 minutes long.

In the past, my employers have done the salary thing where partial months are paid daily. So if you make 2.4 million (giving it a rounded figure), that means you make 80,000 Won/day since the salary is divided by the number of days in a month. One job, an after-school deal with WIN EDUCATION, tried to divided my monthly salary by the number of days in the month and only apply that daily figure to workweek days, excluding weekend days that they counted in their caculations (they did this among other shady things and they found out how please I was about it all).

Anyway, gettting back to the ranch, my new job pays me hourly. Just like a job would back home. So anything over 120 classes is OT. In most months, I teach more than 20 days. So in a month where I teach 22 days, I get 12 hours of OT. On top of the OT I get 3 times a week (one hour MWF). It's awesome. If I teach under the 120 classes, I still get my base salary, of course. And OT outside my contracted schedule remains OT no matter how many classes I teach.

Much better.


A regular job does not do that, I know since I had one ....

when it states 30h/week, and you don't do more then 30h per week, what you get is your normal wage.

Only if you go above the 30h/week do you get OT
The 120h/month thingy is just pushing things into your advantage ...


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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
The problem is where some Hagwons try to make your week hours a bit lighter, and then hit you with weekend work keeping you within the 30 hour/week limit so they don't have to pay you OT. So make sure you have "NO WEEKEND WORK" or "WEEKEND WORK OPTION AND PAID OT" in your contract.


Well I don't work on the weekend. Christ, that's in my contract. That would be a different thing altogether.
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