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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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afsjesse

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: |
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It's not really a big surprise, but it is very sad IMO. I feel horrible whenever I see some students sleeping in class. I know it's not their fault for the lack of sleep because they are part of a go-go non-stop society that drinks more red-bull and energy drinks than anyone else on earth.
When Kids forget to be Kids, it's a sad day for all of us.  |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:17 am Post subject: |
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I slept in class all the time when I was a kid, and it had nothing to do with not getting enough sleep. |
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Jandar

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Childhood is really a very recent cultural phenomenon. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:39 am Post subject: |
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We weren't allowed to sleep in school except in kindergarten we took short naps. Korean kids are really stressed and exhausted, especially in the larger cities where they're just shuttled around from hagwon to hagwon after a whole day at public school. While they're studying a variety of subjects, many are severely lacking rest, nutrition, socialization, and recreation. I found the wealthier looking well dressed kids in the city were always stressed, whining, hungry, and exhausted much more than the average country kids in blue jeans. Country kids are a charm compared to city, because they get more free time, more rest, more food, more exercise, and more play time. Wealthy high achieving Koreans in the cities intend to do good, but they're screwing up big time by expecting too much from their kids and using hagwons as educational baby sitters while parents work and stay out late at soju hofs with their bosses. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Remember the Korean adage - 3 hours if you want to go to Seoul National, 4 for Korea Uni and 5 for Yonsei. Something along those lines for the SKY. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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afsjesse wrote: |
It's not really a big surprise, but it is very sad IMO. I feel horrible whenever I see some students sleeping in class. I know it's not their fault for the lack of sleep because they are part of a go-go non-stop society that drinks more red-bull and energy drinks than anyone else on earth.
When Kids forget to be Kids, it's a sad day for all of us.  |
Totally untrue. Can you even buy Red Bull in Korea? |
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afsjesse

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I meant it more as an exaggeration. Red bull would be nice! |
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NoExplode

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: |
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This whole one-upsmanship regarding lack of sleep on the part of Koreans is idiotic. OK, we get it, you're dedicated. Now grow up. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:52 am Post subject: |
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ive got a 12 year old who swears he goes to bed at 12am and gets up at 4am. Strangely he never looks tired in my class, around 5pm.
I've got one kid who always asks me about life in England. She once asked if there are hagwons in America and England. I said, not really, it's more of a korean thing. She then remarked that even though Koreans study like crazy, they are still not as strong a country as those in North America and Europe. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Papa Smurf wrote: |
I've got one kid who always asks me about life in England. She once asked if there are hagwons in America and England. I said, not really, it's more of a korean thing. She then remarked that even though Koreans study like crazy, they are still not as strong a country as those in North America and Europe. |
So there is hope for the future....  |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Papa Smurf wrote: |
ive got a 12 year old who swears he goes to bed at 12am and gets up at 4am. Strangely he never looks tired in my class, around 5pm.
I've got one kid who always asks me about life in England. She once asked if there are hagwons in America and England. I said, not really, it's more of a korean thing. She then remarked that even though Koreans study like crazy, they are still not as strong a country as those in North America and Europe. |
A brilliant 12 year old...  |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Jandar wrote: |
Childhood is really a very recent cultural phenomenon. |
Very very true, although I think what this article describes is more like post-childhood. |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Calvin do something you hate! Being miserable builds character! |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
afsjesse wrote: |
It's not really a big surprise, but it is very sad IMO. I feel horrible whenever I see some students sleeping in class. I know it's not their fault for the lack of sleep because they are part of a go-go non-stop society that drinks more red-bull and energy drinks than anyone else on earth.
When Kids forget to be Kids, it's a sad day for all of us.  |
Totally untrue. Can you even buy Red Bull in Korea? |
it may be untrue about the Red Bull - don't know, don't drink it -
BUT - I've had second graders (elem school) tell me their parents give them coffee - I have no doubt - how else to get them to stay awake ??
there was a thread on here some time ago about kids being out late at night - I'm often stunned to see parents trucking their children around on trains and buses at all hours on a weeknight.
further - many hakwons - both E and non-E - stay open on national holidays and Saturdays - many children don't even get as many days off as their teachers!!
ask any of your students what their "job" at home is - they'll tell you - "be a good student and do my homework is my job" -
borderline child abuse IMO  |
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