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Kuros
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| How will the Olympics boost tourism to Vancouver after the Olympics are over? |
Yeah, I'm skeptical of that part, too. |
Yes, but what you fail to appreciate are the political ramifications here. The Van Olympics will undermine the current regime (Seoul)/prop up the current regime (Beijing). |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Expo '86 was expensive to put on but proved to be a big boost to the BC tourism industry in terms of infrastructure development and promotion. Building the first dome stadium in North America in itself brought a lot of publicity and was seen as remarkable, scenic on the city landscape, though a quarter century later the stadium is getting long in the tooth; similarly, the pavilion on the bay has become another cornerstone in the identity of the city.
Since it's a tourist destination already, Vancouver and BC tourism can only benefit from the Olympic Games.
Time will tell. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| They should have the Olympics in a country or a region of a country(if it is big) rather than one city. |
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VanIslander
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| They should have the Olympics in a country or a region of a country(if it is big) rather than one city. |
They are.
Whistler is its own municipality, as is Burnaby, New Westminister, Richmond...
all Lower Mainland region of the province
It would be harder to organize the Games farther afield: to ferry across the strait to Vancouver Island or over the mountains to the Interior.
But JMO your idea is a radical one if you think events should be farther apart logistically: Instead of the LA Olympics it should have been skeet shooting in the Apalachians, sailing in Florida, tennis in New York and the marathon in Oklahoma?
Of course a country hosts the games in terms of support and general promotion. The symbol of the 2010 Games is an Inuit inukshuk, which caused a stir because BCers felt it has nothing to do with the province, which it doesn't, but does have to do with the broader big country it's a part of.
The modern Olympics has always been about flag waving. |
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catman
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I would have voted no in the referendum. |
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NoExplode
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| They gave Canada an Olympics? Who knew? |
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JMO
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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But JMO your idea is a radical one if you think events should be farther apart logistically: Instead of the LA Olympics it should have been skeet shooting in the Apalachians, sailing in Florida, tennis in New York and the marathon in Oklahoma?
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Well I was thinking more one particular region if the country is massive like the US. But your scenario sounds great too actually. Put the basketball in MSG were it belongs, have the soccer tournament in those great southern college football stadia, all the shooting competitions somewhere appropiately redneck, the marathon somewhere scenic..put swimming somewhere where you can see the ocean..
In fact I think the US could put on a great Olympics if the holders of the games would realise that the Olympics are a tv event much more so than a live event and that you don't require massive stadia and massive crowds. Tailor it towards the tv audience.
Put the swimming somewhere hot, very close to the ocean. Build a small but beautifully designed stadium. You only need to seat 2-10000 spectators but you will have great shots. Go the same direction with other sports. Except for the big time sports there is no atmosphere and no one there gives a crap. Make it beautiful and people will watch on tv. The Olympics are not the world cup..it doesn't need the big crowds..
edit: actually scratch that soccer idea..as they are always woefully under attended in the Olympics (not the best players are playing) you want to go small and isolate it in one small area. One area has soccer so people will go..they can't really pick and choose. The soccer players will be more available to the locals also if it's a small city. People get involved with the tourney..
These ideas of course will never happen but I'd love to see it. Actually I have a thousand and one changes I would make to the Olympics which might reflect my general disinterest in them more than anything. |
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VanIslander
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JMO, the most watched event at the L.A. Olympics was women's soccer, believe it or not. (easy to get viewership when your country has the best team in the world)
And spreading sports out between regions means no centralized Olympic village for the athletes, and it's just that sort of international comraderie which is seen as essential to the Olympic movement, especially with so many athletes going on to be leaders in their respective countries.
But JMO, I suspect you're being a bit tongue in cheek. |
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Just borrow more then you can ever repay then go bankrupt after hosting it, you cheapskates!  |
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joshuahirtle27
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
| They gave Canada an Olympics? Who knew? |
Yeah this is at least 3 now. Who'd have ever thought a country smaller than Madagascar could have so many. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
JMO, the most watched event at the L.A. Olympics was women's soccer, believe it or not. (easy to get viewership when your country has the best team in the world)
And spreading sports out between regions means no centralized Olympic village for the athletes, and it's just that sort of international comraderie which is seen as essential to the Olympic movement, especially with so many athletes going on to be leaders in their respective countries.
But JMO, I suspect you're being a bit tongue in cheek. |
I don't watch women's soccer and had no idea it was so popular. There are a lot of sports that I never watch but would if the setting was changed. I would definitly watch a marathon through yellowstone park. Let's make it happen.
The world cup doesn't require the teams all to be together so why should the Olympics. Put each sport in their own area and get a real local flavor to it.
I'd also eliminate the winter olympics, just to stop my canadian friends from calling them the olympics and confusing me. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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| JMO wrote: |
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| JMO, the most watched event at the L.A. Olympics was women's soccer, believe it or not. (easy to get viewership when your country has the best team in the world) |
I don't watch women's soccer and had no idea it was so popular. There are a lot of sports that I never watch but would if the setting was changed. |
I just realized it was the Atlanta Olympics in '96 not the LA in '84, got my American Olympics mixed up for a sec.
The setting was unique: first time women's soccer was an Olympic event and the U.S. team was heavily favoured to win gold so NBC prom'd the hell out of it and it was well watched. In fact, the ratings for it during the games was so high that tons of stories were published about it becoming the next great sport to watch, that a pro league would be formed that would be bigger than the then newish WNBA, blah blah blah... after the Games nothing happened, everyone went back to watching other sports.
A similar hype (though less viewership by far) happened with women's hockey when Canada met the U.S. in a battle of equals at the first ever Olympics in that sport (1998), each team having demolished the field but having lost to each other several times in past competition. made for some good drama, one player even playing through a broken arm incurred during the gold medal game.
Anyways, not like you JMO care about the Olympics... as you've indicated.... btw... are you much of a sports fan in general? |
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kotakji
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| I just wanted to note that IMO the Atlanta Olympics really did have an overall positive effect on the city. The Olympic village became dorms for Georgia Tech and Georgia State Universities (which I personally benefited from for three years). The swimming facilities became Tech's athletic complex. The Olympic stadium became Turner Field (where the Braves play) and the track and field stuff became a nice downtown park. Oh and the games themselves were not paid for from public funds. The biggest problem for Atlantans was the traffic shut down during the games which was a mess. But all in all, I'd say the city had a pretty nice net gain. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
Anyways, not like you JMO care about the Olympics... as you've indicated.... btw... are you much of a sports fan in general? |
Yea I'm a big sports fan. I follow Gaelic Football, american football(college and pros), soccer(all big euro leagues) and nba mainly. I do watch some sports in the olympics but find the big team sports to be watered down events. The soccer only has under 23s mainly for example, basketball has international rules and a funky 3 point line. I watch the running between 1500-10000 m and swimming if they are on tv. I don't plan to watch them. The rest I could not give a crap about. I think you could streamline the Olympics and really wow new or apathetic viewers. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| The question is not "what potential benefits" from hosting the Olympics, but "what potential benefits and at what cost"? The games are already projected to have a 100% deficit. At what cost? |
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