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xCustomx
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 Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: What rate do you use when reimbursed for airfare? |
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| My PS contract finishes at the end of February, but I'm not going back home. Instead, I'd like to get reimbursed for the airfare. The contract states that I'm to be given the amount for the most direct flight home. Naturally, I'd think that would be for a non-stop flight. But last year the school wouldn't pay the Korean Air price of 1.6 million because it was too much. Instead, I had to make a 2 hour layover in another city and then catch another 2 hour flight back home. This saved the school 300k. Since I'm not going home, I'd like to pocket the money, selfish and greedy as it might be. When schools pay you for the airfare, do you look at non-stop flights, or whatevers cheapest (within reason....ie no 12 hour layovers and 2 or 3 connecting flights) |
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afsjesse
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:14 am Post subject: |
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My contract says that the school will pay for the MOST DIRECT FARE available. So that would be non-stop in my book.  |
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D.D.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Make sure that they don't know you are not flying home as I think they will not pay for the ticket. That's why the contract says that you must fly within a certain amount of days. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| Make sure that they don't know you are not flying home as I think they will not pay for the ticket. That's why the contract says that you must fly within a certain amount of days. |
Good advice. If they get a whiff of this plan, they'll definitely use it to their advantage.
Just take whatever they give you. Not like you're in a position to ask for more. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:35 am Post subject: |
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4. In the event renewing Employee travels to his/her home country, Employee will be reimbursed for his/her round-trip airfare based on economy class air-fare of the most direct flight available from Incheon to the airport nearest to Employee�s residence within 2 weeks upon return to Korea.
5. In the event renewing Employee travels to another country with a shorter distance than that of home country may be reimbursed for their round-trip airfare pursuant to the foregoing 4.
6. In the event Employee does not travel to either his/her home country or another country other than home pursuant to the foregoing 3, Employee will be given the amount of money equivalent to the round-trip airfare within 2 weeks upon renewal of Contract. Vacation is used in the manner pursuant to the foregoing 3.
7.If Employee completes the Term of Employment without the intention to renew and leaves Korea within 10 days from the expiration date, Employer shall provide the airfare for Employee�s one way return flight to the employee�s home country either in the form of reimbursement or direct purchase.
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These are the relevent clauses from the GEPIK contract. I'm assuming your contract says the same or similar.
First off. Are you renewing your contract with the school? If the answer is No, according to the contract they don't technically have to pay for your ticket - UNLESS YOU ARE LEAVING WITHIN 10 DAYS - if this is the case, get re-imbursed for the cheapeast flight (they will be happy to pay it with no fuss and you don't really want them asking for reciepts, boarding passes etc.)
If you are renewing, then the contract is pretty clear - MOST DIRECT FLIGHT from Incheon to the airport nearest to Employee�s residence. No mention of cheapest, layovers etc. Find the cheapest flight that fits those criteria and show it to them. Give them an opportunity to find a cheaper flight that meets those criteria. |
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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
xCustomx,
You know what your contract 'says' yet you're an idiot-stick *beep* because you let your school shit on you last year. Just go home (however long it takes or by what route). People like you do none of us a favour. |
Explain how I let them shit on me. Because they wanted to take away my vacation and I said I'd rather quit?  |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: What rate do you use when reimbursed for airfare? |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
| But last year the school wouldn't pay the Korean Air price of 1.6 million because it was too much. Instead, I had to make a 2 hour layover in another city and then catch another 2 hour flight back home. This saved the school 300k. |
The above.
You allowed the Ks to make you into a doormat. |
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BrianInSuwon
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you are being greedy. If I wanted to fly home and the school gave me a ticket with a 2 hour stop over, I wouldn't reject the ticket and demand a non-stop ticket. Likewise, I wouldn't nitpick to get the cash equivalent of the most expensive ticket home. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| The OP is not being greedy; but has allowed the school to set precedent by not following the contract in regard to direct flights last year. Thus, the OP is at a disadvantage in negotiating a reasonable cash settlement in lieu of airfare home this year. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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P.S. My rate for reimbursement is 100%.  |
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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| P.S. My rate for reimbursement is 100%. |
Oh, that's good to hear. I was only going to ask for 50% |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, they do have a point. If the contract said direct flight, you shouldn't have settled for a layover just to help them. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ChinaBoy wrote: |
| Well, they do have a point. If the contract said direct flight, you shouldn't have settled for a layover just to help them. |
I hate to nitpick, but I feel it is my duty as a former travel agent!
Non-stop = exactly as it sounds
Direct = the plane stops, but you aren't required to switch planes
Connecting = switch planes |
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BrianInSuwon
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_flight
A direct flight in the aviation industry is any flight between two points by an airline with no change in flight numbers, which may include a stop over at an intermediate point. These are often confused with non-stop flights, which are direct flights involving no intermediate stops.
And after re-reading your original post. If you don't renew, you are not going to get a flight reimbursement. You need to purchase a ticket that leaves within 10 days of your contact end date. And you must use the ticket. My school called the travel agent and informed them that the school should be contacted if the ticket is canceled or changed. Schools are well aware nowadays of teachers buying a ticket home and then canceling the ticket with the airline to get the cash equivalent.
This year, the school required a baggage claim ticket or boarding pass as proof before I could get my arrival ticket reimbursed. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| BrianInSuwon wrote: |
And after re-reading your original post. If you don't renew, you are not going to get a flight reimbursement. You need to purchase a ticket that leaves within 10 days of your contact end date. And you must use the ticket. My school called the travel agent and informed them that the school should be contacted if the ticket is canceled or changed. Schools are well aware nowadays of teachers buying a ticket home and then canceling the ticket with the airline to get the cash equivalent.
This year, the school required a baggage claim ticket or boarding pass as proof before I could get my arrival ticket reimbursed. |
Exactly, that is why I said in my post that if the OP is NOT renewing with his school, he should take what they offer him (i.e. price for cheapest flight) as he wants them to give it up without a fuss and not to dig too deeply into the matter. |
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