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eBay, shipping fees and customs fees... what to expect?
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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: eBay, shipping fees and customs fees... what to expect? Reply with quote

I've probably asked this in the past but I can't remember exactly. I'm thinking about purchasing something on eBay (shipping from Japan). The item will cost $500 and have $140 in shipping charges. The shipping charges seem a bit much to me, but it's a sort of large musical instrument.

So, what should I expect the Korean government to bleed me for? The same item sells on various Korean auction sites for 6x that price so I'm a bit leery.

Also, is it right that they include shipping fees in calculation of customs charges? I could've sworn in the past that they did.

I hope this makes sense. I haven't had my coffee yet. Wink
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it probably depends on who processes your mail. I`ve never been charged before but then I never ordered something for 500 bucks and beyond. $140 sounds about right if it`s an oversized package and using airmail. It`s all about the weight and each gram puts it into a different category.
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Ukon



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always have it sent home then mailed back to you if it's not too heavy.

I've had online packages shipped here from sellers online and no extra feee.....

I heard you should ask them to put "Used gift on the package"....you can also ask them to forgo the receipt or not include. I recently sold some DJ equipment to a guy in Uraguay.....the laundry list of things he asked me to do for shipping was like mailing drugs to get around customs...
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
You can always have it sent home then mailed back to you if it's not too heavy.

I've had online packages shipped here from sellers online and no extra feee.....

I heard you should ask them to put "Used gift on the package"....you can also ask them to forgo the receipt or not include. I recently sold some DJ equipment to a guy in Uraguay.....the laundry list of things he asked me to do for shipping was like mailing drugs to get around customs...


haha, yeah... I bought some stuff from a music store in the US... thankfully the owner had lived abroad and was sympathetic.

I'll give it a try with this seller too. Laughing
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FMPJ



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: eBay, shipping fees and customs fees... what to expect? Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
Also, is it right that they include shipping fees in calculation of customs charges?


Yes, they do this. Your customs charge may be in the $100 range.
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
You can always have it sent home then mailed back to you if it's not too heavy.

I've had online packages shipped here from sellers online and no extra feee.....

I heard you should ask them to put "Used gift on the package"....you can also ask them to forgo the receipt or not include. I recently sold some DJ equipment to a guy in Uraguay.....the laundry list of things he asked me to do for shipping was like mailing drugs to get around customs...


But Japan`s closer than the US? Why double pay Japan post and then USPS? Ship it directly but get it undervalued if the person is willing.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Ukon wrote:
You can always have it sent home then mailed back to you if it's not too heavy.

I've had online packages shipped here from sellers online and no extra feee.....

I heard you should ask them to put "Used gift on the package"....you can also ask them to forgo the receipt or not include. I recently sold some DJ equipment to a guy in Uraguay.....the laundry list of things he asked me to do for shipping was like mailing drugs to get around customs...


But Japan`s closer than the US? Why double pay Japan post and then USPS? Ship it directly but get it undervalued if the person is willing.


I just checked with him and he is willing to undervalue it. So, now I just have to win the auction.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: eBay, shipping fees and customs fees... what to expect? Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
is it right that they include shipping fees in calculation of customs charges?

Yes, they include shipping charges in their duty tax calculation. With a musical instrument, they'll charge you 15% IIRC (I don't have the customs booklet in front of me).
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keetrainchild



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is sort of off-topic, but I remember friends who lived in a third-world country telling me about how they always told people who shipped them things to write the value as being some ridiculously low amount so that the customs officers wouldn't 1. charge them the actual price of the item or 2. keep it for themselves.

I know Korea isn't a third-world country, but the mentality I'm accustomed to is to basically say anything shipped through the mail is worthless.
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keetrainchild



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is sort of off-topic, but I remember friends who lived in a third-world country telling me about how they always told people who shipped them things to write the value as being some ridiculously low amount so that the customs officers wouldn't 1. charge them the actual price of the item or 2. keep it for themselves.

I know Korea isn't a third-world country, but the mentality I'm accustomed to is basically to say anything shipped through the mail is worthless.
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you write it too low and they open it up and see...a brand spanking new laptop. The jig is up. The key is to underwrite it to a tolerable/reasonable amount of the true cost of the item.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

problem with japan post is, that its not the international post which is expensive its the domestic post..

so if your package needs to get to osaka or tokyo to get on the plane..
thats were you will be paying the money for the delivery..
so 140 bucks seems about right if the package is not in tokyo or osaka..

you want pay tax on the item if the item is second hand..
so make sure the seller says used goods on the box..
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losing_touch



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keetrainchild wrote:
I know Korea isn't a third-world country, but the mentality I'm accustomed to is basically to say anything shipped through the mail is worthless.


You could have fooled me!
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keetrainchild



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Well if you write it too low and they open it up and see...a brand spanking new laptop. The jig is up. The key is to underwrite it to a tolerable/reasonable amount of the true cost of the item.


You're somewhat right; I was exaggerating for effect; one should try to write a nominal and not-too-unbelievable value. Of course, if the third-world customs officials open the package and find what looks like a new laptop, they'll just keep it anyway; they won't care whether or not you misrepresented its value. You don't want them to open the package in the first place.

It's difficult, because what some people would consider a cheap price, they would consider very expensive, so if even if you write something that seems low to you, they'll think, "Wow, a $50 item inside! Let's keep it!"
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keetrainchild wrote:
but the mentality I'm accustomed to is basically to say anything shipped through the mail is worthless.

You could do that, but then you could never insure the item you're shipping. Well, you could, but only for the amount you are claiming it's worth. eg I would never ship a laptop and say it was worth $100. If it decides to go "missing" all I could claim was $100; so much for the new laptop and the couple grand I just lost.
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