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Ody
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here
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| maybe you shouldn't tell me what to do. |
'never did.
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| As for my Korean experience. Ive been here for three years, I like it, i have korean friends and foreign. Its basically the same as being at home, only im the minority, there is different food, and a different language. |
thank you for your thoughts.
As promised:
My own Korean experience began on Chusok, 1991 when my new Korean friend and his brother took me to Flushing Meadows, Queens (NYC) to celebrate Full Moon Harvest Day. I ate dukbokki (which I still don�t like) and listened to some terrible music. A year and a half later, when I visited Korea for the first time and was married in the traditional Korean style, I traveled all over S. Korea with my husband and his family. By the time I started to adjust to life here (after 3 months) it was time to return to NY. For many years and through frequents trips abroad, my Korean experience expanded.
Like you though, I consider my life amongst Koreans to be nothing extraordinary. I just feel that my own �Real (or true) Korean Experience� is before me, perhaps with my studying painting at the college in my neighborhood or finally learning the language.
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Ody
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| osangrl wrote: |
| no wonder u girls married Koreans, a western man wouldn't put up with you. |
edit: removed response.
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Ody
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:46 am Post subject: |
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In the interest of bringing a little factual objectivity to light here I would like to post some information.
Across the world generally it is estimated that an horrendous 25% of women will experience domestic violence in their life time.
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| It is estimated that one in four women will experience domestic violence at some time in their lives. Domestic Violence: a Health Care Issue. London: BMA, 1998. |
However, this figure is trumped by an even more disturbing Korean statistic.
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Korea 1992 - Random sample of entire country found 38% of wives report physical abuse in the last year
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So despite what ever other weaknesses there may be in Osangirl's argument, it's fair to say that domestic violence is more prominent in this country than the world average by a significant margin.
And we're just talking about reported cases. Here's another deeply disturbing couple of facts.
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| On average a woman will be assaulted by her partner or ex partner 35 times before reporting it to the police. Yearnshire, S. 'Analysis of cohort', IN Bewley S, Friend J and Mezey G (Eds). Violence Against Women. London: RCOG, 1997. |
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| Domestic violence is the least likely violent crime to be reported to the police. The British Crime Survey 2000 found that just under 1/3 of incidents were reported |
Consider the lack of reporting in Britain, and then consider the culturally ingrained nature of the problem here, the virtual acceptance of it, the high likelihood that the police won't take effective action, and the importance of saving face, and then take another guess at how widespread domestic violence really is in Korea. |
Lucky for you, kiwiboy gallantly served up some statistics supporting one componemt of your flimsy argument. what a hero! Too bad he did so in a way that is somewhat balanced,
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| On the other side, bearing in mind the cultural taboo on intermarriage, a Korean man who chooses this path is likely to be an independant thinker, and culturally progressive man, and probably far less likely than the average Joe Blow Korean to be a spouse abuser. Couple that with the fact that western women are much less likely to put up with it, and you have the reality that a mixed marriage in Korea is in a completely different ball park to a homogenous one. |
This would seem to cross out your point blank statement that those (not women, not men, but "those") married to Koreans marry into misery.
i still think, "that yours is an alarmingly unhealthy, unempowered outlook on life. " that "It�s important to understand that happiness is not a result of what one has, be it green grass, a beachfront view, or a large painting studio." yes osangrl, i hope you one day come to understand, "True happiness comes from inside a person. It is a product of generosity and self-realization." AND it's (happiness that is) there for EVERYONE, no matter their ethnic, cultural, or national identity.
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Location: hiding out
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:30 am Post subject: |
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korean experience: standing in a "walking jam" in dongdaemun, so crowded that i can't even reach down to answer my cell phone, and can't talk anyway because it's too friggin loud ! you know what i'm talking about.
osangrl,
i would have made the same assumption about a year ago, about korean guys. unfortunately, i wasted a lot of of that year with a western guy who didn't treat me very well. now i'm with the sweetest, kindest man i've ever met,and he's korean! btw, no western guy ever's broken up with me (ie....they gladly put up)  |
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Homer
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: |
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"no wonder u girls married Koreans, a western man wouldn't put up with you."
What the heck does that have to do with anything osangrl?  or rather what an idiotic thing to say... |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| shut up. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| And the only reason why I might refrain from going to a dave's gathering is because I already have my own friends, and I like to hang around attravtive people. |
Hell I'll be there! 
Seriously though, come along! The people you are arguing with here will not be there. I't s always a good time, and the people who go are consistantly cool ( I've been to three ) and you'll have a good time. And in any case, you can always pop in for a couple of hours and then slip out and go clubbing, that's what I always do. |
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shevek
Joined: 29 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry Osangirl. Kiwiboy geniunely is good looking if that's what you meant by attractive. You should come.
I think I'll be there and I am also unbelievably attractive like most of the posters here, especially if you really are bi. Did you ever really say you are or did Coporal just make that up?
You sound like you're in a funk anyway. Maybe meeting us will cheer you up. It will be a very neoKorean experience by which I mean in this new age of mulitcultural-because-of-English-teachers Korea, our experience of an english teacher get together is becoming a part of Korean culture. |
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camel96
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| I think I'll be there and I am also unbelievably attractive like most of the posters here, especially if you really are bi. Did you ever really say you are or did Coporal just make that up? |
Um.....We have to talk.
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Not to air my personal business, but there are several reasons for not attending. Of course alot has to do with my boyfriend. Alot has to do with staying semi annonymous, im quite bitchy and confrontational in person as well as on this board. And girls generally don't like me, which is fine since im superficial and like boys better anyways. Another thing is often (myself inculded) this board is so juvenile and elementary schoolish, i couldn't imagine the people drunk. Third, i hate Ryleeys right now we are not on speaking terms and he was my cushion.
And for the record yes, kiwi boy is goodlooking, along with blue flower, but that's it,,,, my prefered surroundings are so limited.  See... im such a bitch!
As for the bi thing.....im not sure i want to get into it, because many of the women on this forum seem to mock it...... I like the company of women in my bed, but only when a man is involved too. So im not sure what you call that. Not Les, not bi, maybe just experimental  [/b] |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| Another thing is often (myself inculded) this board is so juvenile and elementary schoolish, i couldn't imagine the people drunk. |
thats what i need.. a bunch of youngens to go out and get hammered and cause trouble with.. i am such an old fart these days |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Third, i hate Ryleeys right now we are not on speaking terms and he was my cushion. |
Ryleeys, I don't know man...if you can't keep a girl happy on a message board then what are you like in the flesh? |
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camel96
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Actually I always assumed that most of the juvenile elementary-school-ish behavior was as a result of people drinking. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| I like the company of women in my bed, but only when a man is involved too |
Great attitude! I knew a girl like this once and we had some fun. Most guys would go for this kind of thing a lot more if they could but it's not really an option as girls like you are reasonably rare. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thats called experimenting o-girl....if you do it a couple of times...anymore and it becomes a preference... 
Either way its no ones business but yours and you should not be judged or mocked for it. |
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