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McGenghis
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Gangneung
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Oh man, more times than I can shake a thumb-sized stick at.
My first was a preacher who came booming down the hill with his arms outstretched and yelled "Do you believe him, Jesus Christ!"
One lady, puzzled that I didn't worry about my everlasting soul, asked me to believe for her sake.
I've always thought that evangelism is like trying to stratch the itch of doubt. We're all mad here! |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="greedy_bones"]
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Do you remember the "mother of god" people? They were really, really trying hard to get whitey. They would ask you if you knew about the mother of god. If you were foolish enough to suggest it was Mary, they would want to drive you to another location to teach you the truth. As it turned out, the mother of god was an ajumma. Who knew? |
I love those people. The seem to have created an entire religion based on a mistranslation of the bible.
"The bible says we created man and woman in our image, so there's a father AND a mother.[/quote
I met these fruit loops! everything was going great for their argument until I asked them it their church leader was a man or a woman! They seemed a confused that a woman should be the head of their church.  |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| jajdude wrote: |
| One guy on a subway once in Seoul wanted to tell me about Jesus and going to church. I told him I was into Allah and why doesn't he try coming to the mosque? |
If I'm in a generous mood, I just say I already know about God because my father is a minister. They usually leave me alone after that. Those that don't end up on the wrong end of some very un-Christian things I say. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Being bothered by christians is just another modern life inconvenience.....like missing the bus, having to stop for gas, vacuuming, shaving for work....
I put christians and, conversely, gays in the same bracket. They are two groups who undeserverdly think everyone else gives a shite. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| I wish they would go to China. Billions of converts ripe for the taking. |
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keetrainchild
Joined: 06 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Oh yes, I've heard that China is very kind to evangelists.
I don't understand why some people are so bothered by people who try to witness to them. It's not like we're not already heavily bombarded with advertising for things that are vastly more frivolous. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| keetrainchild wrote: |
| I don't understand why some people are so bothered by people who try to witness to them. |
It's the ones who won't take no for an answer that we are so bothered about. If someone says no thank you, respect their wishes and MOVE ON. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| keetrainchild wrote: |
Oh yes, I've heard that China is very kind to evangelists.
I don't understand why some people are so bothered by people who try to witness to them. It's not like we're not already heavily bombarded with advertising for things that are vastly more frivolous. |
Yeah, why don't we want strangers just coming up to us and telling us about the rim job that gave the night before or telling us about their political beliefs. Because maybe things like sex, politics, and religion are topics we just don't like strangers coming out of nowhere and shoving in our face.
Advertising, if you didn't notice, doesn't leap off the subway wall and interrupt you when you're trying to read a book. It does not block your path. It does not request you remove your headphones when you're listening to a podcast.
Your example is silly. |
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keetrainchild
Joined: 06 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Yeah, why don't we want strangers just coming up to us and telling us about the rim job that gave the night before or telling us about their political beliefs. Because maybe things like sex, politics, and religion are topics we just don't like strangers coming out of nowhere and shoving in our face.
Advertising, if you didn't notice, doesn't leap off the subway wall and interrupt you when you're trying to read a book. It does not block your path. It does not request you remove your headphones when you're listening to a podcast.Your example is silly. |
It's something that they consider very important, and apparently they consider it worth their time to go out of their way to explain it to you. Maybe their enthusiasm is commensurate with the(ir perception of the) seriousness of the matter they're approaching you about.
Talking to other people does tend to demand ones attention. I generally find it difficult to talk with other people while I'm reading a book or listening to a portable audio device. Don't tell me you've never stopped reading a book or listening to music to have a conversation with someone. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Yep, they have seen the light, Hallelujah, and damned be the non-believers, so it is their mission to help all us sinners who have not yet found the truth.
You too can have this truth. Just go to the right building and read the right book and sing the right songs and chant the right chants and repeat the right words often. Hang out with the right crowd, not those other silly crowds who don't know what they're talking about.
Actually China's a bit more annoying in public with the aggressive beggars. A while ago a little girl selling flowers held onto my leg like a kindergarten kid and wouldn't let go for a while. That got me more attention than usual. Sorry, I just didn't want a flower. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| keetrainchild wrote: |
| Talking to other people does tend to demand ones attention. I generally find it difficult to talk with other people while I'm reading a book or listening to a portable audio device. Don't tell me you've never stopped reading a book or listening to music to have a conversation with someone. |
Yes, I've stopped to have conversations with people who clearly want to have them with me. And I've talked to strangers. But I don't just pipe up about sex, politics, or religion with strangers.
For many of us, that kind of unsolicited conversation is offensive. That's why we're complaining about it. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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if I were to get into religion in Korea I'd become a Realian. I saw some pictures of them in Insadong they wear all see through clothes.
I was at a wedding the other day and Mr. Moon of the moonies dropped
six million in the envelope that paid for the wedding hall and the honeymoon. Very useful but I wouldn't drink the cool aid |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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That is why I like Buddhists. They leave you alone.
Unfortunately Buddhists are often the targets of Korean Christians. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| keetrainchild wrote: |
| Talking to other people does tend to demand ones attention. I generally find it difficult to talk with other people while I'm reading a book or listening to a portable audio device. Don't tell me you've never stopped reading a book or listening to music to have a conversation with someone. |
First, the problem is, they don't wish to have a conversation with you. Conversation is communication requiring the participation of two people; they are not interested at all in what you may have to say. They are not talking to you to debate the finer points of theology with you. They are there to preach to you, period.
Second, if I am engrossed in a book or have my eyes closed with the earbuds in, it is obvious to everyone except them that I do not wish to have a conversation with them or anyone. To bother me with subject matter they know I most likely will not be happy to discuss with them is rude. |
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keetrainchild
Joined: 06 May 2008
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
First, the problem is, they don't wish to have a conversation with you.
Second, if I am engrossed in a book or have my eyes closed with the earbuds in, it is obvious to everyone except them that I do not wish to have a conversation with them or anyone. |
I've had some interesting conversations with people who solicited me, even people with whom I strongly disagree. I think you have it the other way around; you don't want to have a conversation with them. 
I can understand disliking it when people refuse to leave you alone, even when you ask them to, but I see nothing inherently asocial (I would say antisocial, but that has a set definition which goes far beyond my intended meaning, even if at face value it seems like a reasonable word) about listening to music or reading a book. Maybe I just don't mind discussing complex topics with strangers in public; it's better than discussing them endlessly with strangers on forums.
It's strange, but I grew up in a place where people tend to keep to themselves, and I'm not particularly social, but I've never minded when someone asked me a question about politics, religion, philosophy, my family, or nearly anything in public. I do mind when people ask me about sex, though; I just tell them that I don't talk about that with people, especially people I don't know. I can empathize with you on that point. |
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