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Would you take this Hagwon Job? Legit?

 
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Would you take this Hagwon Job? Legit? Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=35442
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working 4:30-8:50 M-F, under 4 and a half hours per day! Hell ya. I would have considered that for the 2.1 they're offering when I was a newbie. Absolutely.

As for the other two jobs, one is typical lowball stuff you see so often advertised and the other is 10 hours a day, 50 hours a week! That's insane. That's like working two jobs; it IS more hours than you can get working two jobs, and do they pay twice? Not even 4.0. Why should even a newbie consider burning themself out for 3.5 mill when there are eager hagwons willing to pay 2.5 mill just to fill unfilled positions. An extra mill for 20-28 more class hours a week is worse than slave labour. One would have to be pretty dumb at math and pretty lazy at finding other means of supplementing their income, to take a job like that.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the shorter hours' job sounds nice - but if considering it - also consider they might want to add classes after you arrive - if you don't want them, you need to have it in your contract that this schedule is the one you want and no more classes can be added - otherwise you should just make sure you get paid more if they do decide to add more classes - and yes - if it's not in there chances are they could add them and not want to pay you for it.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
the shorter hours' job sounds nice - but if considering it - also consider they might want to add classes after you arrive - if you don't want them, you need to have it in your contract that this schedule is the one you want and no more classes can be added - otherwise you should just make sure you get paid more if they do decide to add more classes - and yes - if it's not in there chances are they could add them and not want to pay you for it.

that's exactly my concern

the hagwons I've worked for don't even open their doors before 1 or 2 in the afternoon so I knew there'd be no split shifts

that job has classes all day, are looking for an uber-employee as well as an earlier shift worker: i'd take the 430-850 job only if I'd meet the director (as anyone but a newbie should do) and state firmly at least three times that I'd be unavailable for work before 4pm any day, that I'm interested in THAT job to get every day no work before 430pm. ... if there's any hesitancy, any resistance, I'd walk away from the offer

you really gotta read between the lines: judge the character of the boss

the boss i have had for the last three years says "annyeong hashimnika", the formal polite goodbye when i say goodbye at the end of my day, and he bows a bit each time too, a very polite and nice man with no ego posturing... i got a complete impression of him the moment i met him - you can just tell on first impressions, especially with Korean men, what kind of guy they are
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander - Just out of curiousity's sake, why are you leaving your current job? Just want a change of scenery?
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