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seoul is cheap for rent when you think about it..
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: seoul is cheap for rent when you think about it.. Reply with quote

ok put the key money aside and think what you are getting for the price you are paying...

1 million won a month will get you a 40-50pyung apartment in seoul!!

thats just 250bucks a week guys...

2 million a month will get you a 50 pyung apartment in a good area..

thats just 500 bucks week...

4 million a month.. would get you a fantastic house!!
thats just 1000 bucks a week..

seems like normal family houses back home in and around the city...

compare those prices to where you live...

because I will tell ya... in san fran, new york, london, sydney, wellington, rome, paris.. you will get CRAP for 250bucks a week, and a small old house for 500bucks a week...

you think tokyo is better?? no way...

if there was no key money... seoul would be seriously cheap!

an officetel for 700.000 a month.. when you think about it..
its bloody cheap!!Im trying to think what would I get back home for 175pw
wouldnt be much better...

how does seoul compare to your home town...
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A million won is more than 250 euros, let alone 250 US dollars.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the most part, cheaper than Chicago. I have a friend who lives b/w Hongdae and Hapjeong who pays 550k/mo and when I told my co teachers they said it was 너무비싸. A comparable place in Chicago in one of the main party districts would run at least 7-800 dollars easy. I don't know about anywhere else though.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I have been saying. I have a three bedroom villa with a seperate living room and kitchen, two balconies one ,on each side. Its a newish building, nice area and I pay 600,000 a month with 20 million down. 600,000 is currently about 450 dollars US or normally 600 US depending on exchange rate. No way I get my own place of any type let alone three rooms in San Francisco for 600 a month. Now in San Francisco you dont need 20 million to get into a place, but you do need first and last months rent, security and cleaning deposits, probably 5-6 thousand US dollars.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
A million won is more than 250 euros, let alone 250 US dollars.


That was 250 a week
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aka Dave



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ten years ago, I paid 750 dollars a month for an apartment in Santa Barbara that was literally a closet. It was on State Street which was really the place to be, and it was in a real estate bubble, but that was really insane. Still, my brother lives in the bay area and my sister lives in La Jolla, even with the deflation the California real estate market is insane.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always considered the Korean rental system to be much more consumer friendly.

It enables you to move up much more easily than in the States.

You can pretty much upgrade your key money by million won every year.

5~10 years out and you are living rent free after you put a deposit down. Your deposit earns interest so it is not completely wasted money either.

It's a pretty sweet system.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
I've always considered the Korean rental system to be much more consumer friendly.

It enables you to move up much more easily than in the States.

You can pretty much upgrade your key money by million won every year.

5~10 years out and you are living rent free after you put a deposit down. Your deposit earns interest so it is not completely wasted money either.

It's a pretty sweet system.


The landlord earns interest on the deposit, not the renter.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Cleveland, where I am from, you can BUY a decent 2 bedroom apartment for $21,000. Of course, good luck finding a decent job, though the cost of living is much less than Seoul.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
T-J wrote:
I've always considered the Korean rental system to be much more consumer friendly.

It enables you to move up much more easily than in the States.

You can pretty much upgrade your key money by million won every year.

5~10 years out and you are living rent free after you put a deposit down. Your deposit earns interest so it is not completely wasted money either.

It's a pretty sweet system.


The landlord earns interest on the deposit, not the renter.


I stand corrected
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unposter wrote:
In Cleveland, where I am from, you can BUY a decent 2 bedroom apartment for $21,000. Of course, good luck finding a decent job, though the cost of living is much less than Seoul.


Although I'm not aware of Cleveland's real estate market, that just doesn't sound right. Even in Vegas, where condos have TANKED, it still costs about $80K to get a decent 2 bedroom. $21K sounds too low. That means that Corollas and Civics would cost more than a 2 bedroom which doesn't make any sense.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Unposter wrote:
In Cleveland, where I am from, you can BUY a decent 2 bedroom apartment for $21,000. Of course, good luck finding a decent job, though the cost of living is much less than Seoul.


Although I'm not aware of Cleveland's real estate market, that just doesn't sound right. Even in Vegas, where condos have TANKED, it still costs about $80K to get a decent 2 bedroom. $21K sounds too low. That means that Corollas and Civics would cost more than a 2 bedroom which doesn't make any sense.


That price in Cleveland is possible.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/08/real_estate/thousand_dollar_homes/index.htm
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most ESL teachers in Korea pay NO RENT so, yeah, that's pretty cheap.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Most ESL teachers in Korea pay NO RENT so, yeah, that's pretty cheap.


Lame.

Though the money doesn't physically pass through your hands, yes, you are still paying rent if you live in school provided housing.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even considering the key money..which you get back.. the rent here is cheap. If you can afford the high cost of entry, once you're in it is MUCH cheaper than most cities in Canada. In Calgary I was paying $1000 a month for something around 25-30pyeong (standard 2 bedroom)
here you can get something like that at various prices depending on your ability to commit a large deposit. The bonus is you get it back and you can use it to buy a house later, where in north america you're paying through the nose constantly and get nothing back when you move.
Its got a lower barrier to entry so you can get a place for a song..but here you can move to goshiwons, etc if you can't swing the big deposit to get yourself started.
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