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Koreans/Hogwans, the UGLY truth

 
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Salamander



Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Koreans/Hogwans, the UGLY truth Reply with quote

I know this divorced Korean woman in Anyang. She tells everyone that her �husband� works abroad, like so many other divorced Korean women. I used to teach her children. I used to be her friend. Before the shit hit the fan� She runs a small art school in an officetel, the biggest one for miles and miles around. She has lots of students. Her brother runs the family hogwan in Hagwon-ga. He�s a poor bastard. Last summer she started telling me stories about the family hogwan, about how every time they run into legal/financial problems they simply change ownership name and/or hogwan name. The hogwan has been in three different names thus far, currently in her mother�s maiden name because of some legal problems last time around. The hogwan is losing business again. It�s going bankrupt because the brother is cooking the books. Apparently, no one in the family likes his wife, his wife living the high-life, spending HIS family�s wealth. She�s a shopaholic. She likes to travel. She likes� The divorced Korean woman told me that her brother is adopted, that he doesn�t know it. She said this in front of her parents and two English-speaking children. They�re disinheriting him. They�re closing the hogwan. They�re cutting all ties with him and his family. He�s not of blood relation, so he�s insignificant nobody. He�s already cost the family two apartments apparently, family investments they were forced to liquidate because of his credit card debts. I no longer teach the children. I no longer associate with the woman. I just think of all the other hogwans that are probably doing the same thing, cutting and running when the shit hits the fan, only to sprout up like noxious weeds later.
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans/Hogwans, the UGLY truth Reply with quote

Salamander wrote:
...every time they run into legal/financial problems they simply change ownership name and/or hogwan name. The hogwan has been in three different names thus far, currently in her mother�s maiden name because of some legal problems last time around...
My ex-boss used to pull the same shenanigans. I understand it's not unusual here.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The name changing tactic is a common tactic taught by the Hogwan Association.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds extremely similar to the Hagwon owner I'm going through Labor Board with right now. Her Hagwon was tied to that SDA chain. She ran the business into the ground, then two weeks later, SDA finds another Hagwon to take it over. A hagwon with a very similar name to the last one, and even MORE cut-throat.
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GwangjuParents



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and these kind of things never happen back in the west, where everyone subscribes to Truth, Justice and the American way.

I would not generalize this behavior to all Koreans.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GwangjuParents wrote:
Yes, and these kind of things never happen back in the west, where everyone subscribes to Truth, Justice and the American way.

I would not generalize this behavior to all Koreans.


This type of comment is unacceptable on Dave's ESL Forum. No one on Dave's ESL Forum generalizes or condones generalizing in any way, shape, or form. Twisted Evil
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GwangjuParents wrote:
Yes, and these kind of things never happen back in the west, where everyone subscribes to Truth, Justice and the American way.

I would not generalize this behavior to all Koreans.



This discussion wasn't about, "back in the west, where everyone subscribes to Truth, Justice and the American way."

If I said I had a bad batch of kimchi today, someone would come out and spout something along the line of, "Yes, and these kind of things never happen back in the west, where everyone *&^%$$$### ."

Geeeeez
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