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Days off high school vs. middle school=?
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wanderingsalsero



Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Location: Houston, TX.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Days off high school vs. middle school=? Reply with quote

One of the pleasant surprises about teaching in the high school has been all the surprise cancelled classes and days off (even if I had to be in the office).

It seems like every time I turned around there was a 'health day' or a class election day or a minor national holiday or a blook donor day or a special testing day or something.

Does the same kind of thing happen in middle school?

Regards,
Art
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but I don't think to the same extent as high school.

Also, I think it varies a great deal by school. Certainly, I've read/heard about all sorts of 'special' days (read cancelled classes) at other schools that my school does not have. However, because the students must do X number of classes per term/year, it seems those schools who have more 'special' days during the term also have shorter vacation periods.
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JJJ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Days off (but I still gotta be there) ???

Sorry, but that doesn't constitute a day off to me. Maybe a cancelled class day or relaxed day..something like that. Day off is when they tell me, "don't worry about coming in during exams".

I have all my 3rd grade middle school classes cancelled for the rest of the year. 1 day no classes....no day off...just sit there day.

Anyhow, middle school has lots of relaxed days with activities and exams and whatnot.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach at 3 schools, 1 high school, 2 middle schools one is an all girls private middle school. My middle schools have more days off but class is not cancelled as much. However, my HS is an Academic HS so they rarley if ever have days off or days with out class. The only way my HS classes get cancelled is so they can study or take some test other than that I have class. I have been under the weather for 2 days with a real bad sinus drip and sore throat. I got a feeling they will try to get me to make up classes as well.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get a few days here and there at my BAHS, but I get far more time off from my GMS. In fact, I'm at home now having just been given the afternoon off. I've also got Tuesday morning off as well. I seem to get more lesson cancellations at my HS though. As it's a private academic school, they seem to be continually tested and, as a result, yours truly gets lots of desk time. It's very rare that I get to knock-off from my HS, but I always get to go early at my MS. I think it's pretty obvious which school I'd rather be at FT.
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sweetiesmith



Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warmachinenkorea wrote:
I teach at 3 schools, 1 high school, 2 middle schools one is an all girls private middle school. My middle schools have more days off but class is not cancelled as much. However, my HS is an Academic HS so they rarley if ever have days off or days with out class. The only way my HS classes get cancelled is so they can study or take some test other than that I have class. I have been under the weather for 2 days with a real bad sinus drip and sore throat. I got a feeling they will try to get me to make up classes as well.


Why do you teach at so many different places. If you don't mind me asking
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wanderingsalsero



Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Location: Houston, TX.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Lots of days off in middle schools too? Reply with quote

I taught in a high school my last contract but now I'm in a middle school.

Are there a similary number of days off in middle schools too?

Art
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's similar, but varies from school to school depending on the principal.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your job satisfaction and perception of worth in your work environment diminished at all by the constant reminder that what you do really isn't important?

You all seem like the really bad player on the team that is relegated to right field, and then when a left hand hitter comes up they bench you.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
Is your job satisfaction and perception of worth in your work environment diminished at all by the constant reminder that what you do really isn't important?

Is anybody's job really that important? If you were working in the West (either in an office environment, or a teacher) do you think the business would fail or the school would close because you decided to leave? The above quote is just a really silly statement.
We are all just cogs in a wheel and in the grand scheme of things not that important


You all seem like the really bad player on the team that is relegated to right field, and then when a left hand hitter comes up they bench you.


So what are YOU doing here then?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are confusing the job with the person doing the job.

Your argument is that anyone can do the job so you are not indispensable.

My point was that the job itself seems to be not important when it is continually pushed to the side every time the real business of preparing for exams that matter come up.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
You are confusing the job with the person doing the job.

Your argument is that anyone can do the job so you are not indispensable.

My point was that the job itself seems to be not important when it is continually pushed to the side every time the real business of preparing for exams that matter come up.


But only 3 or 4 people said that they got the days off for tests or exams. Seems to be a bit of extrapolating.
On the other hand I do see what you are saying but it seems to be that the person is pushed aside which is not really surprising that these tests/exams are mainly in Korean and if you can't speak or write Korean you are just in the way.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:


But only 3 or 4 people said that they got the days off for tests or exams. Seems to be a bit of extrapolating.

On the other hand I do see what you are saying but it seems to be that the person is pushed aside which is not really surprising that these tests/exams are mainly in Korean and if you can't speak or write Korean you are just really in the way.



Please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't think that assuming this when on in most if not all PSs was a great leap.

So back to my question, doesn't the marginalization of your job effect how you feel about it?

What kind of job satisfaction are you able to achieve by being the one who is "in the way" when the time comes for the real instruction to begin?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach at a combined middle and high school and get slightly more time off because of cancellations at the high school.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I teach at a combined middle and high school and get slightly more time off because of cancellations at the high school.


Of course you do the job you hold is even less significant at the high school level than it is at the middle school level.

Don't take that personally as it is in no way directed at you. It is rather a commentary on how Koreans perceive the position PS teachers happen to occupy.

Personally, occupying a position that is not considered important would outweigh the benefits of extra time off. My two cents is that this difference of perspective as it relates to the importance of the PS foreign teacher is the root of most communication problems.

PS teachers take their job seriously, unfortunately the job isn't held in any regard by the Koreans you work for and with.
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