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Any kyopos feel this way?
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Jammer113



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think maybe you could look at this in a different light. You're saying that if you act Korean you feel fake, and yet you feel distance from other foreigners.

The fact is: you're different. You'll always be different. Everyone will first judge you based on your appearance, whether in Korea or Canada or anywhere else. That's true of everyone. It's only long after meeting someone that people actually start to learn about other people.

Different isn't a bad thing, however. You have an incredible knowledge of both cultures that other people don't. You can use this knowledge to benefit your family, friends, and coworkers.

I bet that a lot of Koreans would be very sympathetic to your predicament. When speaking to your close Korean friends, if you start a conversation with "I hate Korea," you'll have problems. But if you start a conversation with "It's so strange, but I feel like an outsider, even when I'm with my friends," your Korean friends will go out of their way to accept your culture. If they don't, they suck. Go make new friends. Unfortunately at social events, you'll likely always be an outsider.

As for bowing and such... that sounds like culture shock to me. Think of it not as "acting Korean" but rather as "being polite". I'm a foreigner, but if I knew the proper ways to bow and when to wave and not wave and the proper ways to say goodbye, you bet I'd act like a Korean. When I went back home, I'd quit acting like a Korean. Showing social grace has nothing to do with your beliefs or values....

I don't see why you can't be yourself with Koreans... just keep in mind Korean social rules, and don't say something you're not supposed to say. I mean... you could.. but you'd either insult someone or everyone would gossip about you. Forever. Koreans run the gamut as far as different beliefs and life views. Find ones that think like you do.

And make lots of foreign friends. I can't imagine foreigners caring where you lived your first half of your life. If they do care, they suck. Go find new friends. You'd become the designated food orderer at restaurants, and perhaps everyone would vent to you all of their problems because you're the 'expert' on Korean culture.... but that's your gift... your knowledge...
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice post jammer

follow that OP
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Frankly Mr Shankly



Joined: 13 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: Any kyopos feel this way? Reply with quote

Jake.K wrote:
Hi. First of all, I'm a kyopo. I spent first half of my life in Korea and the latter half in Canada.

The problem is, since I'm still fluent in Korean, koreans consider me as one of them. Some may say that's a good thing but it isn't all that great. I'm expected to act like a korean but when I comply, it feels like a pretense. I wanna act foreign, speak only english, don't bow anymore, and now even (gasp) look foreign. I feel I have no similarity with these people.

Am I going through a cultural shock?
(A Korean person responding to that would say: "wtf?? A korean guy going through a cultural shock in korea? LOL!")

This feeling I have will raise many korean brows. If I told anyone that I don't really feel like a korean, they surely will throw stones at me. I'm a traitor. A waygook in korean's skin.

Anybody share these feelings with me? Like stuck somewhere between two cultures not sure which one you should belong.


Why, when given the chance to escape Korea, did you come back? Oh yeah, you moved to Canada!
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot wrote:
You're definitely not alone. A whopping number of gyopos I've met seem to be battling similar feelings.

I'd say that they have it the worst of all, often feeling somewhat distanced from both foreigners because of their heritage and Koreans because of their upbringing.


This has been the exact opposite for my cousin and I. Maybe it's because we're half Korean. We both feel like we have it best of all. We appreciate being able to get the F-4 visa. I consider myself American but I can say I'm Korean and Koreans accept me as such. About half of my friends are Korean and the other half not. I suppose it's how you look at it. We choose to look at the positive side and if you do it that way, I think you'll see a lot of benefit.
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake.K wrote:

wow, robot. you explained it better than I could in those few lines. Smile
You could be a psychiatrist if you aren't one already. Wink


Hey man, I was just trying to empathize.

Good luck with your problem.
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