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Gopher
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| caniff wrote: |
| The fact that 9/11 occurred during the Bush Admin.'s watch, despite explicit warnings, is conveniently not mentioned. |
The discourse remains so U.S.-centric that the discussion concerns itself only with the victim's faults, while wholly disregarding the perpetrators -- not unlike blaming a rape-victim because she "ignored the warnings..."
In any case, for those who pursue this line of thinking, we need to bring in the Clinton administration and ask why it did not (a) follow through in Afghanistan; and (b) seek out and apprehend or at least contain O. bin Laden after his attacks in the 1990s...
And K. Olbermann as a source on W. Bush? Are you kidding me? Pass. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder, why there was not really a fuss when he took it upon himself to bomb Iraq for four days, while he was in office? |
Right. Because they just loved the Clinton administration back in the day.
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Returning to this thread's spirit: cheers to W. Bush for keeping a good attitude while in office and not becoming embittered against the public, his far-reaching domestic opposition notwithstanding, as R. Nixon did. And cheers to W. Bush for serving as an example of gracious power transfer these last several weeks, unlike W. Clinton, who sat in the Oval Office until the very last minute, pardoned a large amount of people, including, if I recall, at least one political contributor, and performing petty sabotage in the White House, such as overseeing a staff that removed all of the "Ws" from the keyboards... |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| I believe that's called damning with faint praise. |
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khyber
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| The Daily Show has a GREAT wrap up called "The Bush Years". IF you want REAL journalism, watch that. |
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mises
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| khyber wrote: |
| The Daily Show has a GREAT wrap up called "The Bush Years". IF you want REAL journalism, watch that. |
The daily show is fun in a cynical way, but not "real" journalism. |
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canuckistan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Adios! |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I believe that's called damning with faint praise. |
But dammit that represents the best I can say about his presidency. I disagree with almost all the rest of it.
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For those of us in cyberspace, we have additional confirmation of the transition, by the way: Obama's new webpage. |
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KOREAN_MAN
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess not many people have seen Wag the Dog. Finally, the president can retire from his job with a hefty package. And now bin Laden might have to run for real. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| KOREAN_MAN wrote: |
| I guess not many people have seen Wag the Dog. |
You are expressing your disappointment that we do not join you in taking a fictitious Hollywood film as our reality-compass in American politics? |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| dmbfan wrote: |
| I wonder, why there was not really a fuss when he took it upon himself to bomb Iraq for four days, while he was in office? |
Right. Because they just loved the Clinton administration back in the day.
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Returning to this thread's spirit: cheers to W. Bush for keeping a good attitude while in office and not becoming embittered against the public, his far-reaching domestic opposition notwithstanding, as R. Nixon did. And cheers to W. Bush for serving as an example of gracious power transfer these last several weeks, unlike W. Clinton, who sat in the Oval Office until the very last minute, pardoned a large amount of people, including, if I recall, at least one political contributor, and performing petty sabotage in the White House, such as overseeing a staff that removed all of the "Ws" from the keyboards... |
And dont forget Bill and Hilary stealing White House furniture on the way out. |
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dmbfan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Returning to this thread's spirit: cheers to W. Bush for keeping a good attitude while in office and not becoming embittered against the public, his far-reaching domestic opposition notwithstanding, as R. Nixon did. And cheers to W. Bush for serving as an example of gracious power transfer these last several weeks, unlike W. Clinton, who sat in the Oval Office until the very last minute, pardoned a large amount of people, including, if I recall, at least one political contributor, and performing petty sabotage in the White House, such as overseeing a staff that removed all of the "Ws" from the keyboards... |
Exactly.
I was reading about how Bush was mocked and the cheers of "hey, hey goodbye" were heard in the crowd.
Yep, that's classy behavior.
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| The fact that 9/11 occurred during the Bush Admin.'s watch, despite explicit warnings, is conveniently not mentioned. |
The discourse remains so U.S.-centric that the discussion concerns itself only with the victim's faults, while wholly disregarding the perpetrators -- not unlike blaming a rape-victim because she "ignored the warnings...". |
C'mon, Gopher. The intelligence community had the line on it, but Bush "isn't a big reader" and poo-pooed the intelligence. Some are inclined to make a conspiracy theory out of that, but I chalk it up to sheer incompetence.
I assume you don't need a link for this, as they're all over the place. |
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Rteacher
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Location: Western MA, USA
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: |
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If you go to MSNBC video's Countdown, Keith Olbermann has something like "Bush: 8 years in 8 minutes".
We've all lived through these last 8 years, but hearing the rapid-fire summation should instill a sense of "Holy shit, Bush has been a freaking nightmare". |
Olbermann is the quintessential protype of a person who has no identity of their own. Rather sad really.
Thanks for that article. I think it sums it up perfectly. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| KOREAN_MAN wrote: |
| I guess not many people have seen Wag the Dog. Finally, the president can retire from his job with a hefty package. And now bin Laden might have to run for real. |
This is probably very true. Osama is a dead man within a year. |
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