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Firearcher
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 Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: Commentary on Asian People |
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plynx
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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...and none of those points are generalizations at all.
what "asian" people? there are many countries in asia. i'm confused as to which countries fit into your categories. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Commentary on Asian People |
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| Firearcher wrote: |
| 9. Finally I find them "unaware". Hard to describe exactly what I mean, but I notice this in North America too. They are oblivious of the world or so it seems. Living in a homogeneous society perhaps causes them to be culturally unaware and insensitive. |
Americans are unaware too. Very, very unaware.
This gripe in particular is a common one amongst expats, especially those who just graduated from their liberal arts/humanities/social sciences program. You've spent the past 4 years wagging your tongue about social problems and historical injustices over lattes with similar minded middle-class Americans. You cannot expect the rest of the world to be this emotionally invested in social problems--nor will you be, in time.
I know that sounds very pompous, condescending, and rude, but it's something I wish I could've told myself seven years ago. Would've saved me a lot of hardship. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Why bother at all with this thread? Oh, well. |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| There's an excellent book called The Asian Mystique. I highly recommend reading it. It puts to rest stereotypes, and goes one step further to actually addressing why they exist in the first place. It's written by Sheridan Prasso. I wish I could recommend it on so many of the threads I read here. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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1. I admire their respect of things.
Asians respect things. How profound. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| plynx wrote: |
| ...and none of those points are generalizations at all |
that's the problem with appearing to be talking about individuals rather than cultures
the thread title should read "Asian peoples" and be framed in terms of the predominant cultural values
OF COURSE there is some deviation, but cultural values are widely held and reflective within a community of people |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Commentary on Asian People |
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I disagree with the op on the following:
| Firearcher wrote: |
| They cannot drive cars well. |
They are quite skilled, actually, just very reckless. The same driver who can parallel park better than a driving instructor also swerves into the oncoming lane even though a corner is coming. And by they I don't mean Asians (because the Japanese don't apply) I mean: Koreans and the Vietnamese.
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| They have more style than westerners. They dress better and kick our butts on this issue. |
Absolutely not. Sure, the clothes are more dressy, less casual but their style is derivative, bits and pieces of style taken from "our" butts (I assume you mean, the West, or Europe or America or the like). The definition of good style has never been wearing knock-offs and being truly conservative with patterns and colours (except for the gaudy awful ajumma bright colour matching).
And how about those shiny suits.  Europe, America and the British colonies have nothing to learn about fashion from the style of dress of men around here!
(That said, some of the really old guys in this country dress pretty cool, like members of the rat pack, fashionable for their age.)
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| They are healthier |
No. The smoking, drinking, malnutrition, stress, lack of sleep, shared eating habits makes for a nation of rampant hepatitis, stomach viruses and cancers. They don't even live as long.
They weigh less on average. So one can say they 'look healthier' and around here appearances are everything. |
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rocketdolphin
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Arab people also refer to themselves as "Asian."
And so do people from India.
And Jewish people did too, but stopped after WWII. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| rocketdolphin wrote: |
Arab people also refer to themselves as "Asian."
And so do people from India.
And Jewish people did too, but stopped after WWII. |
Do they have narrow eyes and trouble differentiating between R and L? Then they're not Asian. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| rocketdolphin wrote: |
Arab people also refer to themselves as "Asian."
And so do people from India.
And Jewish people did too, but stopped after WWII. |
Do they have narrow eyes and trouble differentiating between R and L? Then they're not Asian. |
Well, if you want to get technical.... |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| sjrm wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| rocketdolphin wrote: |
Arab people also refer to themselves as "Asian."
And so do people from India.
And Jewish people did too, but stopped after WWII. |
Do they have narrow eyes and trouble differentiating between R and L? Then they're not Asian. |
Well, if you want to get technical.... |
In this thread? On this site? No, I don't. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| sjrm wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| rocketdolphin wrote: |
Arab people also refer to themselves as "Asian."
And so do people from India.
And Jewish people did too, but stopped after WWII. |
Do they have narrow eyes and trouble differentiating between R and L? Then they're not Asian. |
Well, if you want to get technical.... |
In this thread? On this site? No, I don't. |
Fair enough.  |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I find different Asian groups to be far more diverse than different European groups. Your generalisations look simply ridiculous. |
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Firearcher
Joined: 22 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Commentary on Asian People |
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