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MothraAttack
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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| Trevor wrote: |
--Also, your online footprint indicates that you post a lot on other forums on the same topic as the title of this thread. (I'm nosey).
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You're one paranoid weirdo, and that statement is completely false. The only other forum that I use this handle on is the Something Awful forum. I've commented on the Holocaust there once in the Ask/Tell forum in a Holocaust thread. If you're really such a creep, though, you'll also notice I've posted a question in the Tourism & Travel thread about Working in South Korea. I'm finishing up college and considering teaching abroad.
Wait, no, my Zionist bosses give me a stipend to debate incredulous anonymous posters on an obscure section of an ESL job forum.  |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know, but your time stamps indicate that you sure as hell are interested in this thread, and what I have to say.
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| Why do any of us take any interest at all in any topic on this site? Just. |
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MothraAttack
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevor wrote: |
Something was bothering me in the back of my mind but it took me awhile to put it together -- Mothra's posts were all prepackaged stuff that didn't necessarily fit into the forum discussion. He just started doleing out this huge amount of stuff from his collection. It confused me for a moment: I didn't want to give up any ground to this guy -- but then I realized I never argued against most of the stuff he was trying to refute! For instance, I kept asking him for information about the gas chambers, and he kept going back to his big bag of links and shoveling information about the Einstazgruppen and the Krematoria. Different issues! But that didn't seem to matter, as long as he kept pumping the thread with this prepackaged stuff. |
The reason I can out with that first was to pre-empt any questions you might ask about them. And, if you had bothered to read, you'd know that Kremas and gas chambers are same thing. Actually, you asked about numbers, the Auschwitz death toll, and smoke in pictures. Any additional information I provided was to give you a broader picture. Consider it a courtesy.
And if you think it's so pre-packaged, go ahead and Google it. You'll only find it here, because I wrote it all just for you. Clearly, though, you're an extremely paranoid person and a bit of a lost cause. The Axis History Forum should be able to answer any specific questions you have.
edit: I also posted in a thread on the James Randi forum about the Holocaust. Conspiracy theories are an interest of mine. However, "a lot" is still incorrect when the real number appears to be two. I didn't include the Randi forum in the previous post because I haven't posted there in over a year. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well, actually no. That's not true, unless there is another MothraAttack who spells your moniker exactly the same way and who, coincidentally also enjoys posting about the the holocaust.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=112085
And again, it is unusual for a new member of the Korean ESL community to shoot straight for the CE forum and never post anything else (typically a newbie has a bunch of questions that they post in the General and Job forums). Can I ask where you teach ESL? How did you come across this thread?
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| Trevor wrote: |
--Also, your online footprint indicates that you post a lot on other forums on the same topic as the title of this thread. (I'm nosey).
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You're one paranoid weirdo, and that statement is completely false. The only other forum that I use this handle on is the Something Awful forum. I've commented on the Holocaust there once in the Ask/Tell forum in a Holocaust thread. If you're really such a creep, though, you'll also notice I've posted a question in the Tourism & Travel thread about Working in South Korea. I'm finishing up college and considering teaching abroad.
Wait, no, my Zionist bosses give me a stipend to debate incredulous anonymous posters on an obscure section of an ESL job forum. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you, eh Trevor? |
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MothraAttack
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevor wrote: |
Well, actually no. That's not true, unless there is another MothraAttack who spells your moniker exactly the same way and who, coincidentally also enjoys posting about the the holocaust.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=112085
And again, it is unusual for a new member of the Korean ESL community to shoot straight for the CE forum and never post anything else (typically a newbie has a bunch of questions that they post in the General and Job forums). Can I ask where you teach ESL? How did you come across this thread?
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I don't teach ESL. Really, this is proof that you don't even read what I write. Quit wasting your time formatting your posts to look like a 1996 Geocities website and instead bother to read.
"I'm finishing up college and considering teaching abroad."
As noted, I've posted about the Holocaust in two threads. One more if you count the one on Alex Jones. What got me interested in conspiracy theories? Living in Texas, I have a friend who was into Alex Jones. Voila.
I've been lurking Dave's for two years, primarily the S. Korea and Peru threads. I've followed it since long before the E-2 visa was changed, and I've followed the development of schools being listed in the Peru thread from Lima to Aquacaliente. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Okay. You unloaded your bag of links to "pre-empt" any questions I had -- even though they had never come up in conversation. You had them handy in your collection so you decided to just unload them all
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| And, if you had bothered to read, you'd know that Kremas and gas chambers are same thing. |
Absolutely and totally false. The specific gas chamber I repeatedly asked you about (at Auschwitz -- the one's the russians rebuilt) is not a Krema.
Actually I had a look over at Axishistory. The place you said 'could answer all my questions.' Ironically, they are at each others throats over there. They can't agree on anything. I don't think I am going to find the answers to my questions over there without getting into a bigger mess than we are here 
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| Trevor wrote: |
Something was bothering me in the back of my mind but it took me awhile to put it together -- Mothra's posts were all prepackaged stuff that didn't necessarily fit into the forum discussion. He just started doleing out this huge amount of stuff from his collection. It confused me for a moment: I didn't want to give up any ground to this guy -- but then I realized I never argued against most of the stuff he was trying to refute! For instance, I kept asking him for information about the gas chambers, and he kept going back to his big bag of links and shoveling information about the Einstazgruppen and the Krematoria. Different issues! But that didn't seem to matter, as long as he kept pumping the thread with this prepackaged stuff. |
The reason I can out with that first was to pre-empt any questions you might ask about them. And, if you had bothered to read, you'd know that Kremas and gas chambers are same thing. Actually, you asked about numbers, the Auschwitz death toll, and smoke in pictures. Any additional information I provided was to give you a broader picture. Consider it a courtesy.
And if you think it's so pre-packaged, go ahead and Google it. You'll only find it here, because I wrote it all just for you. Clearly, though, you're an extremely paranoid person and a bit of a lost cause. The Axis History Forum should be able to answer any specific questions you have.
edit: I also posted in a thread on the James Randi forum about the Holocaust. Conspiracy theories are an interest of mine. However, "a lot" is still incorrect when the real number appears to be two. I didn't include the Randi forum in the previous post because I haven't posted there in over a year. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| So trevor, you're insinuating that he is an online hitman, employed by some nefarious organization with the goal of spreading disinformation to the masses of message board users? |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, you have insinuated that several times. Not me.
Here are the facts:
Mothra says he has been looking at the forum for two years (I believe him) but he never had a single question or comment that inspired him to register until he saw this thread. He has never posted a single item on the site other than in this thread and he says he posted here to 'preempt any questions' I might have. His online footprint points to more than one discussion on the topic and he posted a great number of links that had little or nothing to do with anything we were discussing before. He says this was to 'preempt' any questions I might have.
And you say I'm insinuating?
| mises wrote: |
| So trevor, you're insinuating that he is an online hitman, employed by some nefarious organization with the goal of spreading disinformation to the masses of message board users? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| He said he's interested in conspiracy theories. Seems consistent with his "foot print" to me. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa. Levels of "Desperatadrine" just shot through the roof here. Why would a poster's activity in another forum matter at all?
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| Absolutely and totally false. The specific gas chamber I repeatedly asked you about (at Auschwitz -- the one's the russians rebuilt) is not a Krema. |
Is this the one you were talking about?
http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-04.html
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| The small gas chamber of Krema I was used for gassing for a short time, and then converted into an air-raid shelter; after the war, it was reconstructed to look as it did when it was used for gassing, as Dr. Piper notes in his letter of response to the Cole video. |
Correct me if I'm wrong but your whole argument surrounding this particular Krema is that there are no pictures with smoke right?
Note: I think that the Krema are where the dead bodies were burnt up; gas chambers are where they were gassed and killed. |
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Blockhead confidence
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Trevor, if you think Mothra is using 'pre-packaged' blocks of information, copy an unusual phrase or two and run them through google. You could even try a whole slab of text. If this has been used anywhere else and copied word-for-word it should show up.
I started a thread on this topic, by the way. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Mothra himself said the enormous number of links he introduced were meant to 'pre-empt' any 'questions' I might have.
'nuff said.
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Trevor, if you think Mothra is using 'pre-packaged' blocks of information, copy an unusual phrase or two and run them through google. You could even try a whole slab of text. If this has been used anywhere else and copied word-for-word it should show up.
I started a thread on this topic, by the way. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevor wrote: |
Mothra himself said the enormous number of links he introduced were meant to 'pre-empt' any 'questions' I might have.
'nuff said.
| Blockhead confidence wrote: |
Trevor, if you think Mothra is using 'pre-packaged' blocks of information, copy an unusual phrase or two and run them through google. You could even try a whole slab of text. If this has been used anywhere else and copied word-for-word it should show up.
I started a thread on this topic, by the way. |
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If you are just looking for information ought you not be thankful to him? |
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MothraAttack
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevor wrote: |
Actually, you have insinuated that several times. Not me.
Here are the facts:
Mothra says he has been looking at the forum for two years (I believe him) but he never had a single question or comment that inspired him to register until he saw this thread. |
Correct. Your point?
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| He has never posted a single item on the site other than in this thread and he says he posted here to 'preempt any questions' I might have. |
Correct. Your point? Often times when discussing revisionism people will arrive at other talking points. It's really no surprise, because that's precisely what you've done. First you questioned the Auschwitz death toll. Then you questioned the rebuilt Krema. Then you questioned aerial photographs. Yet each step of the way I supplied you with ample resources for researching more of this. Now you're, uh, pointing out the fact that I've discussed the Holocaust on the Internet before. Aside from playing Captain Obvious and engaging in a little cyber-stalking, you've contributed nothing.
Nor have you been able to substantiate your claims, much less articulate your claims in coherent English. Your usage of the language suggests you may not be a native speaker, but be that as it may you've yet to provide evidence of how 1. smoke in the roughly one dozen extant aerial recon photos of Auschwitz changes anything 2. how the Auschwitz death toll is wrong and 3. how the Zykon levels as found in the Krakow Institute for Forensic Research's report support your thesis that, uh, what is your thesis, anyway?
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| His online footprint points to more than one discussion on the topic |
It's true! I have posted in more than one: two, if you don't count this one.
What's your point, again?
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He says this was to 'preempt' any questions I might have.
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It was additional information to address any other denier canards that might crop up while also providing context.
And to whom it may concern: The Kremas in Birkenau -- the Todeslager section of Auschwitz-Birkenau -- were both gas chamber and crematorium s under one roof. I think the confusion arises in that the German Krema in this case doesn't refer explicitly to a crematorium. The gassing room would be called the Vergassunskeller.
edit: Here is a thread about ESL I posted in while I was waiting for Dave Sperling to activate my account here. I could also make a screenshot of when I created the text document "denialism" (Jan. 20, while waiting) to show you that it was not pre-packaged. But again, you can just google any phrase you wish as another poster suggested. As a former copy editor, I know that's a great way to check for a plagiarizing writer.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2772532&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=49 |
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