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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: MORE BOOS THAN BALLS |
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It will not be easy for President B. Hussein Obama. More than half the country voted for him, and yet our newspapers are brimming with snippy remarks at every little aspect of his inauguration.
Here's a small sampling of the churlishness in just The New York Times:
-- The American public is bemused by the tasteless show-biz extravaganza surrounding Barack Obama's inauguration today.
-- There is something to be said for some showiness in an inauguration. But one felt discomfited all the same.
-- This is an inauguration, not a coronation.
-- Is there a parallel between Mrs. Obama's jewel-toned outfit and somebody else's glass slippers? Why limousines and not shank's mare?
It is still unclear whether we are supposed to shout "Whoopee!" or "Shame!" about the new elegance the Obamas are bringing to Washington.
Boy, talk about raining on somebody's parade! These were not, of course, comments about the inauguration of the angel Obama; they are (slightly edited) comments about the inauguration of another historic president, Ronald Reagan, in January 1981.
Obama's inaugural address tracked much of Reagan's first inaugural address -- minus the substance -- the main difference being that Obama did not invoke God as stoutly or frequently, restricting his heavenly references to a few liberal focus-grouped phrases, such as "God-given" and "God's grace."
Obama was also not as fulsome in his praise of his predecessor as Reagan was. To appreciate how remarkable this is, recall that Reagan's predecessor was Jimmy Carter.
Under Carter, more than 50 Americans were held hostage by a two-bit terrorist Iranian regime for 444 days -- released the day of Reagan's inauguration. Under Bush, there has not been another terrorist attack since Sept. 11, 2001.
But I gather that if Obama had uttered anything more than the briefest allusion to Bush, that would have provoked yet more booing from the Hope-and-Change crowd, which moments earlier had showered Bush with boos when he walked onto the stage. That must be the new tone we've been hearing so much about.
So maybe liberals can stop acting as if the entire nation could at last come together in a "unity of purpose" if only conservatives would stop fomenting "conflict and discord" -- as Obama suggested in his inaugural address. We're not the ones who booed a departing president.
It is a liberal trope to insult conservatives by asking them meaningless questions, such as the one repeatedly asked of Bush throughout his presidency about whether he had made any mistakes. All humans make mistakes -- what is the point of that question other than to give insult?
When will the first reporter ask President Obama to admit that he has made mistakes? Try: Never.
No, that question will disappear for the next four years. It will be replaced by the new question for conservatives on every liberal's lips these days: Do you want Obama to succeed as president?
Answer: Of course we do. We live here, too.
But merely to ask the question is to imply that the 60 million Americans who did not vote for Obama are being unpatriotic if they do not wholeheartedly endorse his liberal agenda.
I guess it depends on the meaning of "succeed." If Obama "succeeds" in pushing through big-government, terrorist-appeasing policies, he will not have "succeeded" at being a good president. If we didn't think conservative principles of small government and strong national defense weren't better for the country, we wouldn't be conservatives.
And why was that question never asked of liberals producing assassination books and movies about President Bush for the last eight years?
Say, did liberals want Pastor Rick Warren to succeed delivering a meaningful invocation at the inaugural?
The way I remember it, the Hope-and-Change crowd viciously denounced the Christian pastor, stamped their feet and demanded that Obama withdraw the invitation -- all because Rick Warren agrees with Obama's stated position on gay marriage, which also happens to be the position of a vast majority of Americans every time they have been allowed to vote on the matter.
Liberals always have to play the victim, acting as if they merely want to bring the nation together in hope and unity in the face of petulant, stick-in-the-mud conservatives. Meanwhile, they are the ones booing, heckling and publicly fantasizing about the assassination of those who disagree with them on policy matters.
Hope and unity, apparently, can only be achieved if conservatives would just go away -- and perhaps have the decency to kill themselves.
Republicans are not the ones who need to be told that "the time has come to set aside childish things" -- as Obama said of his own assumption of the presidency. Remember? We're the ones who managed to gaze upon Carter at the conclusion of his abomination of a presidency without booing.
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Horray! I was wondering what a greased up trollop would have to say about Obama's inauguration. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Was Bush ever referred to as G. H. Walker Bush? What a racist piece of trash Coulter is. And that goes for anyone who clips her racist remarks for public display. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Horray! I was wondering what a greased up trollop would have to say about Obama's inauguration. |
LOL!
Well, for starters you could actually discuss the points that were made.
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Was Bush ever referred to as G. H. Walker Bush? What a racist piece of trash Coulter is. And that goes for anyone who clips her racist remarks for public display. |
LOL!
OK....was trying to find some "n-bombs" or anything to do with racism in the article...................could not find any.
So, instead of immediately posting distraction insults, how about we discuss the points in the article?
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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Sometimes people's reputations precede them DMB. Every time I see a Tom Clancy book I don't think "maybe this one is good, while the rest are complete garbage". Same principle applies here. It's Ann Coulter, whatever she is saying is probably inflammatory and hate filled.
She makes a lot of money..that is sad. All you need in this world to make money is no scruples and an ability to appeal to people's worst instincts. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes people's reputations precede them DMB. Every time I see a Tom Clancy book I don't think "maybe this one is good, while the rest are complete garbage". Same principle applies here. It's Ann Coulter, whatever she is saying is probably inflammatory and hate filled.
She makes a lot of money..that is sad. All you need in this world to make money is no scruples and an ability to appeal to people's worst instincts. |
Ah, an objective response.
OK, I agree, to a point. She does make a lot of money and her reputation is ....well, it is what it is.
Although, I don't think that what she is trying to say is hate filled, though....well......she certainley does not sugar coat the issues and how she feels about them. I do feel that she should back off some what and use her fangs only for emergencies.
But, she is a smart gal. She is highly educated and makes now apologies for her work. I do think she does have some good insite (insight) into the far left mentality that is in America.
Basically, she is the ying to the yang....if that makes sense.
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Liberals always have to play the victim, acting as if they merely want to bring the nation together in hope and unity in the face of petulant, stick-in-the-mud conservatives. Meanwhile, they are the ones booing, heckling and publicly fantasizing about the assassination of those who disagree with them on policy matters.
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I thought that quote was pretty rich.
It would be far more accurate and true to reality in the paragraph to just replace "Liberals" with "Conservatives", except of course for the part about bringing the nation together, which conservatives want no part of, but may begrudgingly accept now that they have lost.
Obama is making all sorts of concessions to the Right, and still getting no love. I won't be holding my breath.
I also find it funny how Coulter had no problem constantly mentioning Reagan, yet barely mentioned the last eight years with doofus. Criticize Obama all you want, but until he screws up even half as much as W. did, Right wingers don't really have a leg to stand on. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Obama is making all sorts of concessions to the Right, and still getting no love. |
This alone should be proof positive of the intentions of folks like Rush and Ann. Despite those concessions and appointments for the Right (otherwise known as bipartisanship), Rush has openly said that he WANTS Obama to fail and Ann doesn't seem interested in American success if it stems from Obama.
Bipartisanship does not help the income of those two clowns. Divisiveness is what their listeners and supporters like to hear about and so that's what they preach. It's not good for America but it sure lines their pockets well enough.
Is there another political subsection (besides the far right) that thinks that bipartisanship is stupid? What does the (American) far left think of bipartisanship? |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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I'm not a big fan of Coulter, who can be tasteless, rude, and incredibly self-righteous, but she does point out something that is obvious to anyone but liberals, namely, that their leaders tend to lack as much class as those on the conservative side.
Nancy Pelosi gloated that "We won" when questioned about not including any Republicans on the bailout talks and almost as smugly Obama said the same a day later--a fact glossed over by the press, of course. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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Here's some more Ann Coulter wisdom for you:
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"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99
"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01
The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99
To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC
"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00
Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00
On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97
"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99
"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01
"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99
"We're now at the point that it's beyond whether or not this guy is a horny hick. I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane."---Equal Time
"It's enough [to be impeached] for the president to be a pervert."---The Case Against Bill Clinton, Coulter's 1998 book.
"Clinton is in love with the erect *beep*."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00
"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97
"If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it."---MSNBC 7/27/97
"If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns."---Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97
"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."---Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01
"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97
"Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair."---CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00
"I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn't."---TV Guide 8/97
"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00
"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97
"I think [Whitewater]'s going to prevent the First Lady from running for Senate."---Rivera Live 3/12/99
"My track record is pretty good on predictions."---Rivera Live 12/8/98
"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00
On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99
"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00
"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97
"You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard."---Washington Post 10/16/98 |
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0111.coulterwisdom.html
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnyquotes/a/anncoulter.htm
She's a real class act alright. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, very SELECTIVE quotes taken from interviews in which we don't catch the full topic, timing or motive.
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: MORE BOOS THAN BALLS |
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Do you want Obama to succeed as president?
Answer: Of course we do. We live here, too.
But merely to ask the question is to imply that the 60 million Americans who did not vote for Obama are being unpatriotic if they do not wholeheartedly endorse his liberal agenda. |
How unoriginal: http://www.slate.com/id/2106109/ . What amazes me is that anyone actually listens to Ann Coulter--but, sadly, this world is full of idiots.  |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Bipartisanship does not help the income of those two clowns. Divisiveness is what their listeners and supporters like to hear about and so that's what they preach. It's not good for America but it sure lines their pockets well enough. |
My New Year's resolution was to stop being so cynical, but I think you're right. I think far-right pundits know that they're making a living by appealing to people's primal instincts and deepest fears; I've seen it at work with my very conservative and uneducated grandparents, who watch Fox News religiously and regurgitate the stupid bullshit. Yet it doesn't take much digging to see the cognitive dissonance beneath the surface. With educated people such as Coulter and Limbaugh, I cannot imagine they're oblivious to the lack of logic and coherence in their arguments. But they get royalties from right-wingers like dmbfan looking for the thrill of indignant outrage, just like medieval Christians, Victorian moralists, or McCarthy witch-hunters. It feels good to disapprove of other people--being objective about different viewpoints and lifestyles, well, that's hard. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, very SELECTIVE quotes taken from interviews in which we don't catch the full topic, timing or motive. |
The claim was made that "the left" lacks class and "Coulter" always takes the highroad. Those quotes were selective quotes because they prove that hypothesis wrong.
Do you REALLY think that context is going to make:
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| "I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote." |
sound like Keates?
Don't bother trying to defend her, it isn't worth the futility.
And what about the class with which rush went after chelsea clinton (a 13year old at the time):
"Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" Limbaugh said on TV, before holding up a picture of Chelsea. |
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