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Shocking story about India's abhorrent society
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: Shocking story about India's abhorrent society Reply with quote

I've always thought of India as a Commonwealth country, one with an advanced legal system, intelligent population, a rapidly developing society.

After reading this article, I no longer think so. In my opinion, India is the worst example of a "developing" nation. One that not only still has an "untouchable" population 60 years after Gandhi called for it's abolishment, one that refuses to take practical measures to control it's population growth, still has rampant infanticide and honour killings, builds a space program while most of it's populace live on less than $2 a day, but finally, one that takes no action against an institutionalized system involving gangs, police, the judiciary and doctors where children have limbs sawed off or acid poured on their tiny bodies so as to be more effective beggars. What an absolute disgrace of a "nation" if you can call it that. It seems to me to be more of a nation of rich people, and the rest, subhumans.

I suggest reading the comments section after reading the article. Many Indians are well aware and outraged at their country's state.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1127056/The-real-Slumdog-Millionaires-Behind-cinema-fantasy-mafia-gangs-deliberately-crippling-children-profit.html
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tomato



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much for the power of Krishna consciousness.
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wesharris



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesharris wrote:
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
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Wes


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
wesharris wrote:
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
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Wes


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.


Investing in space is a very good idea. The far future of our species probably does lie out in space. But if we can't feed educate and control our populations we'll never get there.

India needs to pick up it's act. I'd actually rather live in China. They're beginning to get it.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
wesharris wrote:
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
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Wes


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.


Who would have protected them?
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
wesharris wrote:
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
-=-
Wes


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.


Who would have protected them?


India had the bomb 20-30 years before Pakistan. If India doesn't have it, neither does Pakistan.

Britain would, as would all other commonwealth countries, and NATO, amongst others.
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animalbirdfish



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
wesharris wrote:
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
-=-
Wes


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.


Who would have protected them?


India had the bomb 20-30 years before Pakistan. If India doesn't have it, neither does Pakistan.

Britain would, as would all other commonwealth countries, and NATO, amongst others.



In a neighborhood that, broadly speaking, includes Pakistan, China, Myanmar/Burma, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Iran...I'd probably be looking for a nuclear deterrent, too - even pre-1970.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look - I'd argue that India's fundamental problem is a dislocation of capital and labor.

One third is illiterate, 80% live in poverty, 55% is aged under 25, production and distribution is ineffective, property ownership is a shambles, disease is rampant, even basics like drinking water, housing and toilets are a luxury.

By any measurment, 60 years of bourgeous democracy and capitalism has been a failure.

It has created a small ruling class, perhaps 20%, who are more the product of the imperialist and colonialist past, rather than as a result of any real innovation or political initiative on their part.

Dangling capitalism as an illusion to the millions of poor and downtrodden, is almost feudal in its cruelty.

Everyone knows there are no easy solutions and, in all probability, no parliamentary pathway out of its current situation.

The peasant and working class majority MUST be put at the absolute center of the political discourse. The structure of the state and social systems within it, need to be radically changed through collective, large scale socialist production in every area.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
So much for the power of Krishna consciousness.


Didn't you give me a hard time for giving RT teacher a hard time about this exact issue?
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tomato



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember, Five Eagles.
I remember fighting with both of you, but I don't remember anything like that.
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
Look - I'd argue that India's fundamental problem is a dislocation of capital and labor.

One third is illiterate, 80% live in poverty, 55% is aged under 25, production and distribution is ineffective, property ownership is a shambles, disease is rampant, even basics like drinking water, housing and toilets are a luxury.

By any measurment, 60 years of bourgeous democracy and capitalism has been a failure.

It has created a small ruling class, perhaps 20%, who are more the product of the imperialist and colonialist past, rather than as a result of any real innovation or political initiative on their part.

Dangling capitalism as an illusion to the millions of poor and downtrodden, is almost feudal in its cruelty.

Everyone knows there are no easy solutions and, in all probability, no parliamentary pathway out of its current situation.

The peasant and working class majority MUST be put at the absolute center of the political discourse. The structure of the state and social systems within it, need to be radically changed through collective, large scale socialist production in every area.


Wow, because that has worked the dozen or so other times it was tried.
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wesharris



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright socialist hippies. capitalism is great. The masses of India will eventually dwindle down to manageable levels. That's the way that things work here at this moment. India needs space. The US needs space. The Earth needs space. Through Space we will spread beyond the confines of our solar system, it may take 3 - 4 centuries, but eventually we will get out of this well. The trick isn't to leave all of your eggs in one basket. So if a few die, for the future to live, so be it. HIPPIES!!!!! Suck!.!.!
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michaelambling



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesharris wrote:
Alright socialist hippies. capitalism is great. The masses of India will eventually dwindle down to manageable levels. That's the way that things work here at this moment. India needs space. The US needs space. The Earth needs space. Through Space we will spread beyond the confines of our solar system, it may take 3 - 4 centuries, but eventually we will get out of this well. The trick isn't to leave all of your eggs in one basket. So if a few die, for the future to live, so be it. HIPPIES!!!!! Suck!.!.!


I, for one, think this is parody. Is Stephen Colbert a lurker on this site?
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
wesharris wrote:
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
-=-
Wes


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.


Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.

Just imagine if America poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make America proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.

Works both way, dude.
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