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Gopher
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 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: CNN: Who is keeping YOU honest...? |
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Given CNN's fawning coverage of the Obama administration -- dating as early as his campaign -- its self-righteous claim that it "keeps them honest" no longer works for me. It kept W. Bush "honest," no doubt -- starting with A. Cooper's literally crying on the air during Katrina, for example. But what CNN is doing now is more like "cheerleading them." And I think it should at least drop the "keeping them honest" slogan. It sounds as disingenuous as Fox New's claim that it merely reports while we decide.
So get real, CNN. Even Chris Rock has admitted...
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CNN: I watched the special last night, and I noticed that you did a lot of jokes about John McCain -- his age, his war hero story -- but not so many about Barack Obama. Is it harder to make fun of Obama?
Chris Rock: He's just one of those guys, you know, like Will Smith. There's no Will Smith jokes. There's no Brad Pitt jokes. You know, what are you going to say? "Ooh, you used to have sex with Jennifer Anniston. Now you have sex with Angelina Jolie. You're such a loser." What do you say? "Ooh, your movies are big. You make $20 million." There's nothing to say about Brad Pitt.
CNN: Why is Obama like that?
Rock: It's like "Ooh, you're young and virile and you've got a beautiful wife and kids. You're the first African-American president." You know, what do you say...? |
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caniff
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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The Daily Show's inaugeration day episode had their Chief Black Correspondent (I love how they get a cast member to be the "Chief" of something) say much the same thing.
He (Wyatt something?) said now we have a 'cool' president and therefore he can't be touched (he claimed the race issue was a non-factor). Then they had another commentator come on to describe the euphoria of the inaugeration.
At that point Jon Stewart played alternating clips of Bush and Obama saying virtually the same things. The commentator threatened to throw his shoe at Jon and said something like "You know when you put cheese on Italian food and it tastes delicious, but if you put it on Chinese food it tastes disgusting?".
The Daily Show gets it right more often than not. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Its like Bush after 9-11.
Wait until Obama actually does something. He may be golden-tongued and sincere, but he will make mistakes.
This too will pass. |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't see how American's take either FOX or CNN seriously! |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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All right, here is something that CNN is reporting disingenuously: B. Obama's decision that he and staff may dress semi-casually in the White House.
They report it as if they want everyone to see W. Bush as an uptight stiff, a man who forced all staff to wear full business suits at all times in the White House.
They fail to mention -- and I say "fail" because I know they know what I am about to say -- that W. Bush responded to his constituents' complaints that W. Clinton had debased the office by (a) dressing down to the point of t-shirts and jeans; (b) allowing staff to call him "Bill"; and (c) getting blowjobs in the Oval Office while on duty, etc. So W. Bush entered office determined to make the place "respectable" again. He also wanted, as do many Republicans, to imitate R. Reagan, who wore full business suits, too -- which is probably where all of this started, as, I suspect, W. Clinton was in turn reacting against this when he went lax after 1992... |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: Re: CNN: Who is keeping YOU honest...? |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Given CNN's fawning coverage of the Obama administration -- dating as early as his campaign -- its self-righteous claim that it "keeps them honest" no longer works for me. It kept W. Bush "honest," no doubt -- starting with A. Cooper's literally crying on the air during Katrina, for example. But what CNN is doing now is more like "cheerleading them." And I think it should at least drop the "keeping them honest" slogan. It sounds as disingenuous as Fox New's claim that it merely reports while we decide. |
It is good that you see that CNN has merely done and continues to do its part in the anointing of Obama from the gitgo to the present.
Wow, a business outfit has a phony slogan. Report them to the Better Business Bureau.  |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Gopher noted:
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All right, here is something that CNN is reporting disingenuously: B. Obama's decision that he and staff may dress semi-casually in the White House.
They report it as if they want everyone to see W. Bush as an uptight stiff, a man who forced all staff to wear full business suits at all times in the White House. |
Kennedy refurbished the White House after the "disaster" decoration of the Eisenhowers and the Reagans did the same after Carter. Probably removing Billy Beer stains.
But this aside, your main point of contention is on the mark. That's why I complained about Cooper's reaction to the Roberts gaffe, completing overlooking (along with Blitzer) Obama's false start. These are cheerleaders, to be sure.
FoxNews has had a lot more to say about the Caroline Kennedy fiasco than CNN, by the way, but not surprisingly. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Get your B. Obama t-shirts while supplies last!
That and the special commemorative B. Obama victory plates! Just like the Elvis plates!
You know, some day these items, these "authentic pieces of history," will really be worth something... |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| i trust james earl jones' voice will keep CNN on the straight and narrow. nobody messes with lord vader. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Another mystery to the idealists, apparently...
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Unfortunately, we are again asking the president to explain why exactly he announced, with great fanfare, new ethics rules if he had no intention of abiding by them.
The Obama administration is yet again asking for a waiver to its very own rules about hiring lobbyists.
This time, it is the new treasury secretary, Tim Geithner. He wants a former lobbyist for Goldman Sachs to be his top aide at the Treasury Department.
My view is simple: Mr. President, if you want to hire former lobbyists because you think they are the best people to do the job, then hire former lobbyists. Just don't hold a big news conference first to tell us how your administration is going to be so different from previous administrations in that you won't be hiring lobbyists.
Don't make your disdain for lobbyists and your pledges that they won't wield influence in your administration a centerpiece of your campaign.
It's the hypocrisy and the double-talk that makes so many of us so cynical.
Do what you think is best for the country. Just be straight with us about how you're going to do it. |
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Honest answer: he needed to cultivate and excite the idealists and rally them behind his "change-has-come" and related slogans in order to win the election. Once in office, like everyone from FDR forward, he realized that he needed qualified, experienced people in his service. And almost all people qualified for senior govt service have found themselves in corporations, in law firms, and lobbies at one time or another in their lives.
So much for Barack Obama's purity re: lobbyists and "change." But does this CNN reporter truly believe there is something puzzling about this...? |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| CNN reporters are still in a state of euphoria. Time will tell whether they'll also be in a state of denial. |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Strange how people from the US don't trust the media they have to be impartial...........
Well done USA? |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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chickenpie wrote:
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| Strange how people from the US don't trust the media they have to be impartial |
Not any more--we used to have higher journalistic standards. People who dismiss FoxNews usually don't realize that it is as much a REACTION to the growing liberal bias of the three major networks, especially NBC, than a news channel bent on being conservative. However, it has since moved steadily in that direction but at least admits it. Not so the others, or CNN, which delude themselves into believing they're unbiased.
As for Canadian and British news, it's hardly impartial to those of us outsiders who view it regularly. Toronto and the CBN is a real mess. The BBC is much better but certainly has its slant--witness the Gaza coverage. Only a snob (not necessarily implying you) would believe otherwise. And I don't want my news station nationalized, thank you very much. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Not any more--we used to have higher journalistic standards...the growing liberal bias... |
Not merely "a growing liberal bias," ManintheMiddle. Also a post1960s crusaders'-like activism, A. Cooper crying on air, berating politicians during Katrina, for example. Not "reporters," then. Rather, "highly committed social activists with airtime."
I am in the United States now and not abroad. Take the ongoing coverage of the California woman who just gave birth to octuplets -- it has gone on for days now. How is CNN "reporting" this story? They spend no small amount of time wringing their hands, trying to decide whether they morally approve of what this woman has done, and asking their viewers to opine via email and iReporting as well. They disclaim "we know as a woman it is her body and her right to decide, BUT..."
Twisted.
By the way, BBC is generally good, as is NPR and PBS. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Take the ongoing coverage of the California woman who just gave birth to octuplets -- it has gone on for days now. How is CNN "reporting" this story? They spend no small amount of time wringing their hands, trying to decide whether they morally approve of what this woman has done, and asking their viewers to opine via email and iReporting as well. They disclaim "we know as a woman it is her body and her right to decide, |
Isn't that just a disgusting story?
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/760-What-The-Nation-Is-Up-Against.html
This is exactly the kind of nonsense that 'big government' creates. That woman can't afford her kids at all. |
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