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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: North Korea tears up agreements Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7859671.stm

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North Korea tears up agreements

Communist North Korea has said it is scrapping all military and political agreements signed with the South, accusing Seoul of hostile intent.

The South's government had pushed relations "to the brink of a war", the North's cross-border relations body said on state media.

One agreement scrapped is that covering the maritime border in the Yellow Sea.

The two countries' navies fought bloody skirmishes in the area of the de facto border in 2002 and 1999.

"All the agreed points concerning the issue of putting an end to the political and military confrontation between the North and the South will be nullified," the Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea said.

It said that the situation on the Korean peninsula had reached a point where there was "neither way to improve [relations] nor hope to bring them on track".

The North has stepped up rhetorical attacks on the administration of South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, who has promised to stop the free flow of aid to the North unless it moves to end its nuclear weapons programme.

The two states are still technically at war since their conflict more than half a century ago.

The naval clashes of and 2002 and 1999 left six South Koreans and, reportedly, dozens of North Koreans dead.


So, now that they're being ignored and not fed, they act like a child and rip stuff up.

Got it.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SK had the "Sunshine Policy", and it has now moved to a kind of "Reciprocity Policy", but since that also doesn't appear to be working I would recommend that SK implement a "Talk to the Hand Policy".

Put these a-holes on permanent ignore.
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
SK had the "Sunshine Policy", and it has now moved to a kind of "Reciprocity Policy", but since that also doesn't appear to be working I would recommend that SK implement a "Talk to the Hand Policy".

Put these a-holes on permanent ignore.


I agree. They are just looking for attention.
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/01/29/korea-tension.html

Story with similar content.

While we can all happily ignore them, given the current financial meltdown, who knows how desperate North Korea may be.

Desperation can cause one to make irrational decisions. North Korea being starved and not getting its food rations is akin to an addict not getting his/her heroin.

We just might get the front seats to a very intense show.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they're trying to set up a confrontation in the West Sea.

I hope they're blown out of the water.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

America already made plans to deal with North Korean physical threat.
South Koreans have superior technology (and pbbly manpower) to deal with the North.

Mr. Kim is on his last leg ....

Soon very soon
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maximmm



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if that's very reassuring.
Teaching English in the war zone can be rather hazardous..Smile

I'd prefer for the South Korean government to take a slightly milder stance on this matter. Rather than moving on to better the already improving relations with North Korea due to the positive steps made by the previous government, Lee decided to increase the military presence at the DMZ and cut off communications with North Korea.

Diplomacy has never been a strong suit of Pres. Lee, and when you have two opposing countries with such retarded foreign policies, conflict is inevitable. One can only hope that Pres. Lee will take some diplomacy lessons soon, since that's the only side from which we can expect some sort of reasoning.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Korea will make a lot of noise until South Korea gives some money to Kim Jong Il.

And it is going to happen again , and again , and again.

There is a way to put an end to this behavior from North Korea once and for all.
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GwangjuParents



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
There is a way to put an end to this behavior from North Korea once and for all.


And Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee was just about to type "Love is the Answer" before he accidentally hit the send button...

Right, Joo?
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:
Rather than moving on to better the already improving relations with North Korea due to the positive steps made by the previous government


You mean like the Kim and Roh administrations kissing the North's ass and the North turning around and detonating a nuclear weapon?

Yeah, things were going great. And it's the North that threatens to shut down Kaesong, SK tours to the North, etc. They are the ones, as far as I can see, who are blocking diplomacy.

Not giving the regime food, fertilizers, fuel oil, etc. is not an act of aggression. In this case, it seems more like common sense.

Why reward the North? They are manipulative and incorrigible.
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I think they're trying to set up a confrontation in the West Sea.

I hope they're blown out of the water.


Did you mean: Yellow sea ? West Sea....There is no such name in English, sorry.

Yellow Sea

Yellow Sea or Huanghai (hw�ng-hī) [key][yellow sea], arm of the Pacific Ocean, between China and Korea. It has a maximum depth of 500 ft (152 m). Bohai, Korea Bay (or West Korea Bay), and the Liaodong Gulf are its major inlets. The Huang He, Huai, Liao, and Yalu rivers empty into it. South of the Korean peninsula, it becomes the East China Sea. The name sometimes appears as Hwang-hai

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0853037.html

Oh, and North Korea sucks. They are just trying to get more free handouts so they are throwing another temper tantrum. Korean style!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Reciprocity Policy is right. LMB should make a policy statement something like this: While we regret the Norks' dissatisfaction with the current situation, we reject the right of any one party to unilaterally alter past agreements. We hope to resume tourism to Kumgang as soon as we are assured the Norks won't shoot anymore of our housewives. We will be happy to resume shipments of food and fertilizer as soon as the Nork gov't takes steps to fulfill their side of the agreements already signed. In the meantime, our army and navy are standing by ready to protect our citizens from any hostile action from the north.
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mssinmymind



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was on CNN;

N. Korea ups ante in standoff with S. Korea
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/01/30/north.korea.south.korea/index.html

How is this effecting the teaching field ? If at all ? Any concerns about safety etc ?



::Sorry I'm fairly new to this board and have never posted on the "current events" thread at all::
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my years here on the peninsula I have not once had a fear about war being a possibility. Usually people who make such warnings are laughed off this board.

However, recently, I have started to think that a disaster could happen in the short-term future. North Korea is an incredible personality cult. Essentially ALL power is in the hands of one man, an implication that is hard for us to even imagine from our backgrounds. If he says to launch every missile they have into the south, his followers will do so. They've been brainwashed for decades for such actions.

I think Kim Jong-Il is no fool and his sense of self-preservation is stronger than his hyper-rhetoric. But with his failing health, I fear that the old bastard might lose his marbles and start believing all the garbage he's been saying for years. Maybe he'll decide to go out with a bang. One thing we do know is that he doesn't really care about his own people. Would he be willing to sacrifice them for one last spectacle? I wouldn't put it past him.

North Korea has almost no chance of success in a war. But with one suprise strike they could kill ALOT of people.
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Jandar



Joined: 11 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Peoples Army of (North) Korea has 1.2 Million soldiers ready to attack right now as we speak. There is another 7.7 Million in reserve, or ready to attack tomorrow.

The South Korean Army has 560,000 soldiers and another 25,000 Marines.
There only 4.5 Million in reserve.

I have seen the Marines, they are fit and ready to fight.
I cannot say the same for the Army.

I would predict 3 days before Daegu is taken.

How far it goes from there is dependent on intervention from other nations.

My feeling is that a part of the 4.5 Million reserve will jump the line in favor of unification at any cost.

I hope I am wrong.
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