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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: Chosun Ilbo: Crimes by Foreigners... |
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'Remain Low'
Although there are increasing concerns about crimes committed by foreigners as the number of resident expatriates now exceeds 1 million, expert opinion is that it is not at a serious level. While the crime rate among Koreans is 3.5 percent, it is 1.4 percent among foreigners and even lower among illegal immigrants, because they want to stay longer in Korea to work and earn money and tend to lie low.
Choi Young-shin at the Korean Institute of Criminology said it was unfair to view illegal immigrants as potential criminals. While it is true that the number of crimes is increasing as the number of foreigners rises, the crime rate remains low. The number of foreign criminals took a threefold leap from 3,438 in 2000 to 9,103 in 2004, and in 2007, the number rose to 14,524. The Ministry of Justice feels that compulsory registration of fingerprints, which was abolished in 2004, is needed. The Roh Moo-hyun administration abolished the system as it was thought to contain elements of human rights violation.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200807/200807090013.html
Just thought people would like to know. |
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Blockhead confidence
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Chosun Ilbo: Crimes by Foreigners... |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
'Remain Low'
Although there are increasing concerns about crimes committed by foreigners as the number of resident expatriates now exceeds 1 million, expert opinion is that it is not at a serious level. While the crime rate among Koreans is 3.5 percent, it is 1.4 percent among foreigners and even lower among illegal immigrants, because they want to stay longer in Korea to work and earn money and tend to lie low.
Choi Young-shin at the Korean Institute of Criminology said it was unfair to view illegal immigrants as potential criminals. While it is true that the number of crimes is increasing as the number of foreigners rises, the crime rate remains low. The number of foreign criminals took a threefold leap from 3,438 in 2000 to 9,103 in 2004, and in 2007, the number rose to 14,524. The Ministry of Justice feels that compulsory registration of fingerprints, which was abolished in 2004, is needed. The Roh Moo-hyun administration abolished the system as it was thought to contain elements of human rights violation.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200807/200807090013.html
Just thought people would like to know. |
Hardly surprising this comes from the English language edition. They're obviously trying to make us feel more secure here while secretly training an army of civilians to do a citizens' arrest on us whenever we look lustily at a Korean. 'Sometimes you have to get behind someone to stab them in the back'. |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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think I will have to add to the list if I can't get my neighbors to shut up...  |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice to see. They should print that in the Korean newspapers. Two faced doesn't even begin to describe it... |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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This has been reported before.
http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/24/exposing-the-myth-of-foreigner-crime-in-korea/
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/21/brutal-murder-leading-to-anti-illegal-alien-sentiment/
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A researcher at the Korean Institute of Criminology said the absolute number of crimes committed by foreigners has increased, but this is simply because the foreign population has increased, not because criminality rates in the foreign population has increased.
According to the researcher�s stats, the foreign population � including illegals � grew by 414.5% between 1992 and 2000, but foreign crime increased by only 216.8% in the same period.
In fact, in 2004, there were 677,948 foreigners in Korea, a 781.8% increase from 1992. The number of foreign crimes was 12,821, only a 541.4% increase from 1992.
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According to the researcher at Korean Institute of Criminology. foreigners commit fewer crimes per capita than Koreans. In 2004, there were 1,891 criminals for every 100,000 foreigners. For Koreans, the number was 5,134 for every 100,000. |
These statistics didn't improve the tattered image of foreigners then, and I doubt it'll do anything now. |
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Blockhead confidence
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| These statistics didn't improve the tattered image of foreigners then, and I doubt it'll do anything now. |
What we can be sure about, however, is the effect these articles will have on foreigners' opinions of Koreans' opinions of foreigners. And the answer to that, by the way, is absolutely nothing. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Nice to see. They should print that in the Korean newspapers. Two faced doesn't even begin to describe it... |
How do you know it hasn't been printed in Korean newspapers?
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Chosun Ilbo: Crimes by Foreigners... |
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| Blockhead confidence wrote: |
Hardly surprising this comes from the English language edition. They're obviously trying to make us feel more secure here while secretly training an army of civilians to do a citizens' arrest on us whenever we look lustily at a Korean. 'Sometimes you have to get behind someone to stab them in the back'. |
Wow, you seem to have some issues.
I like the mix of a consipracy theory with over-exaggeration - nice work. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Nice to see. They should print that in the Korean newspapers. Two faced doesn't even begin to describe it... |
How do you know it hasn't been printed in Korean newspapers? |
How do you know it has? Your stance would be better served if you found a link rather than simply poo-pooing stuff, methinks. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| samd wrote: |
| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Nice to see. They should print that in the Korean newspapers. Two faced doesn't even begin to describe it... |
How do you know it hasn't been printed in Korean newspapers? |
How do you know it has? Your stance would be better served if you found a link rather than simply poo-pooing stuff, methinks. |
I didn't claim that it has. I just want to know if Guri Guy has any idea, the slightest clue even, whether similar articles have been printed in Korean, or whether he is just spinning his usual Korea-hating BS.
It would also seem reasonable to assume that most articles printed in the English-language editions of Korean newspapers would be based on a Korean-langauge equivalent. I don't mean a translated article, but a story done in both languages on the same issue.
If I hear of a link I will post it. I'm a bit too busy right now to trawl through the news with my own limited Korean ability. Kind of like how you couldn't be bothered finding a decent link supporting your claims of Korean brutality in the Vietnam War a couple of days ago I guess. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| samd wrote: |
| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Nice to see. They should print that in the Korean newspapers. Two faced doesn't even begin to describe it... |
How do you know it hasn't been printed in Korean newspapers? |
How do you know it has? Your stance would be better served if you found a link rather than simply poo-pooing stuff, methinks. |
I didn't claim that it has. I just want to know if Guri Guy has any idea, the slightest clue even, whether similar articles have been printed in Korean, or whether he is just spinning his usual Korea-hating BS.
It would also seem reasonable to assume that most articles printed in the English-language editions of Korean newspapers would be based on a Korean-langauge equivalent. I don't mean a translated article, but a story done in both languages on the same issue.
If I hear of a link I will post it. I'm a bit too busy right now to trawl through the news with my own limited Korean ability. Kind of like how you couldn't be bothered finding a decent link supporting your claims of Korean brutality in the Vietnam War a couple of days ago I guess. |
Wrong thread, but since you brought it up:
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| With their own version of karate, and without many scruples, the Koreans imposed their iron control over Dinh Binh Province. |
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But ROK soldiers were renowned for carrying out brutal interrogations and for silent killing techniques involving the
garrote or karate. This struck fear into the hearts of the enemy, but it went far beyond the norm of Western warfare.
The three main units deployed to Vietnam were the Capital (Tiger) Division, the ROK Marine Corps� 2nd (Blue Dragon)
Brigade and the 9th (White Horse) Division. Various ROK special forces units were also deployed. |
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8704.html
There's one account. Should I dig up more?
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| samd wrote: |
| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Nice to see. They should print that in the Korean newspapers. Two faced doesn't even begin to describe it... |
How do you know it hasn't been printed in Korean newspapers? |
How do you know it has? Your stance would be better served if you found a link rather than simply poo-pooing stuff, methinks. |
don't poo poo the poo poo |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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don't poo poo the poo poo |
Sage advice. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| No wonder the Vietnamese sent ROK POWs to Kimmie up North. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
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| With their own version of karate, and without many scruples, the Koreans imposed their iron control over Dinh Binh Province. |
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But ROK soldiers were renowned for carrying out brutal interrogations and for silent killing techniques involving the
garrote or karate. This struck fear into the hearts of the enemy, but it went far beyond the norm of Western warfare.
The three main units deployed to Vietnam were the Capital (Tiger) Division, the ROK Marine Corps� 2nd (Blue Dragon)
Brigade and the 9th (White Horse) Division. Various ROK special forces units were also deployed. |
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8704.html
There's one account. Should I dig up more? |
Forum posts as opposed to historical sources, but the best I have seen on the topic nonetheless. Thank you for the link, and I stand corrected on the Vietnam War issue. |
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