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hugekebab
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| HapKi wrote: |
It was just on the news.
He slipped and fell off a cliff and died.
He was the father of 2 young kids. Tragic. |
Pardon me for being cynical, but have you seen the suicide statistics for this fine nation? Are you also aware that suicide is seen as a tremendous loss of face and reputation for the family of the deceased? |
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samd
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Bottom Line:
Japan got smashed in WWII and Korean jumped in and seized Dokdo. It doesn't really matter who owned it beforehand, because Korea owns it now. They took it - just like almost every other country in the world was taken by someone or another at some time.
Japan lost it, which they deserved, and Dokdo is now Korean. Those Japanese who care about the issue have some nerve asking for it back. |
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Blockhead confidence
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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I've always personally felt Dokdo to be Japanese territory.
The Koreans are such vulgar little patriots and many of their conservative numbers make incredibly idiotic claims about Dokdo. It's therefor impossible that any group with people like those in it could possibly be right on the issue.
The Japanese, on the other hand, have excellent aesthetic tastes, have been punished much more than enough for their wrongs in WW2, and do not personally offend me as I go about my daily business in the hagwon. It's therefor certain that they're right on this issue, especially when their opponents are the wrong-headed Koreans.
The funny thing is, though, I foam at the mouth more because of these rocks and the waters rich in fish and gas around them than the morons who don't deserve them and who I started out laughing at. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
Bottom Line:
Japan got smashed in WWII and Korean jumped in and seized Dokdo. It doesn't really matter who owned it beforehand, because Korea owns it now. They took it - just like almost every other country in the world was taken by someone or another at some time.
Japan lost it, which they deserved, and Dokdo is now Korean. Those Japanese who care about the issue have some nerve asking for it back. |
Exactly. Oh well at least it provides us some amusement as the pro-japanese people in this board engage in their little fantasies of Japan taking it back one day.
On the other hand guess everybody's got to have their dream. |
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Guri Guy
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It's not a dream or fantasy UrMy. It's actually a stubborn hope for South Korea to actually do the right thing. Sadly, I don't think it will happen. They are in too deep now. They have brainwashed their people for over 50 years, enticing the flower of their youth to draw hate filled drawings and keep the hate fires burning far into the future.
Every if an honest courageous South Korean wanted to tell his fellow countrymen that "the Emperor has no clothes," he or she would be ignored, beaten or probably killed.
So the big lie will continue for the foreseeable future. |
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Exactly. Oh well at least it provides us some amusement as the pro-japanese people in this board engage in their little fantasies of Japan taking it back one day.
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Is that how it is?
1) Dukdo is Korean territory = Pro-Korean people on this board
2) Dukdo is Japanese territory = Pro-Japanese people on this board |
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Is that how it is?
1) Dukdo is Korean territory = Pro-Korean people on this board
2) Dukdo is Japanese territory = Pro-Japanese people on this board
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In UrMy's black and white world, yes. |
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Blockhead confidence
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Exactly. Oh well at least it provides us some amusement as the pro-japanese people in this board engage in their little fantasies of Japan taking it back one day.
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Is that how it is?
1) Dukdo is Korean territory = Pro-Korean people on this board
2) Dukdo is Japanese territory = Pro-Japanese people on this board |
Close. More like:
Dokdo is Japanese territoy = people having difficulty coming to terms with Korean culture |
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Good point. Or maybe this as well.
Dokdo is not Korean? Why do you hate Korea?  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Exactly. Oh well at least it provides us some amusement as the pro-japanese people in this board engage in their little fantasies of Japan taking it back one day.
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Is that how it is?
Dukdo is Japanese territory = Pro-Japanese people on this board |
Actually this is how it is. If you provide any information that shows Korea having Dokdo before Japan on their maps it's called propaganda by the pro-Japanese people. Mind you, they never show any proof for their position. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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It's not a dream or fantasy UrMy. It's actually a stubborn hope for South Korea to actually do the right thing. Sadly, I don't think it will happen. They are in too deep now. They have brainwashed their people for over 50 years, enticing the flower of their youth to draw hate filled drawings and keep the hate fires burning far into the future.
Every if an honest courageous South Korean wanted to tell his fellow countrymen that "the Emperor has no clothes," he or she would be ignored, beaten or probably killed.
So the big lie will continue for the foreseeable future. |
So it IS a fantasy then yeah? Even you yourself don't think South Korea is going to hand it back and think this will continue for the foreseeable future. And Japan has had decades to plan a re-takeover...it would have happened by now if it was going to. It's not an important issue on the government's plate, and will not be for a very long time, if ever.
And let's be honest...any military action by Japan would have the entire rest of the region getting all het up about Japan's 'military adventurism'. And they'd have to re-write their constitution anyway, and that shows no signs of happening soon. Plus with the economy the way it is now, they have a lot more important things to take care of first. |
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| Actually this is how it is. If you provide any information that shows Korea having Dokdo before Japan on their maps it's called propaganda by the pro-Japanese people. Mind you, they never show any proof for their position. |
*Sigh* Whatever UrMy.
Plenty of proof here and a lot for you to learn.
http://dokdo-or-takeshima.blogspot.com/ |
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Ilsanman
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Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Maybe Japan deserved to lose it, but Korea didn't deserve to gain it.
| samd wrote: |
Bottom Line:
Japan got smashed in WWII and Korean jumped in and seized Dokdo. It doesn't really matter who owned it beforehand, because Korea owns it now. They took it - just like almost every other country in the world was taken by someone or another at some time.
Japan lost it, which they deserved, and Dokdo is now Korean. Those Japanese who care about the issue have some nerve asking for it back. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Exactly. Oh well at least it provides us some amusement as the pro-japanese people in this board engage in their little fantasies of Japan taking it back one day.
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Is that how it is?
Dukdo is Japanese territory = Pro-Japanese people on this board |
Actually this is how it is. If you provide any information that shows Korea having Dokdo before Japan on their maps it's called propaganda by the pro-Japanese people. Mind you, they never show any proof for their position. |
This is idiotic. It is a complicated historical question without a clear answer. I'm going henceforth call you SarahPalin. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Exactly. Oh well at least it provides us some amusement as the pro-japanese people in this board engage in their little fantasies of Japan taking it back one day.
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Is that how it is?
Dukdo is Japanese territory = Pro-Japanese people on this board |
Actually this is how it is. If you provide any information that shows Korea having Dokdo before Japan on their maps it's called propaganda by the pro-Japanese people. Mind you, they never show any proof for their position. |
This is idiotic. It is a complicated historical question without a clear answer. I'm going henceforth call you SarahPalin. |
What are you on about? You asked a question and I answered it. Dokdo is seen as Japanese territory by the pro-Japanese people on this board. |
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