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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| wesharris wrote: |
Hey knock everything else.
But a space program, will eventually pay for itself. The future is space. The masses, may remain on earth. But the resources are in space.
Don't knock space. Hippy.
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Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.
Just imagine if India poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make India proud, and not the international embarassment it is now. |
Ridiculous. We have one planet that is meant to sustain us. If we f!ck it up, we are all done for.
Just imagine if America poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make America proud, and not the international embarassment it is now.
Works both way, dude. |
I'm from Canada. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Just imagine if America poured the resources it has spent on nuclear weapons and a space program into clean water, sewage, birth control and housing. Now that would be something to make America proud, and not the international embarassment it is now. |
What a ridiculous comparison. What percentage of Americans do not have access to clean water, sewage or housing. And seeing as grinding poverty nor out of control birthrates are even an issue, access to birth control (which I believe is easily obtainable) is of no relevance.
If you took in a Mumbai slum dweller and housed him in the 'ghetto' in America, he just might think he'd won the lottery. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Look - I'd argue that India's fundamental problem is a dislocation of capital and labor.
One third is illiterate, 80% live in poverty, 55% is aged under 25, production and distribution is ineffective, property ownership is a shambles, disease is rampant, even basics like drinking water, housing and toilets are a luxury.
By any measurment, 60 years of bourgeous democracy and capitalism has been a failure.
It has created a small ruling class, perhaps 20%, who are more the product of the imperialist and colonialist past, rather than as a result of any real innovation or political initiative on their part.
Dangling capitalism as an illusion to the millions of poor and downtrodden, is almost feudal in its cruelty.
Everyone knows there are no easy solutions and, in all probability, no parliamentary pathway out of its current situation.
The peasant and working class majority MUST be put at the absolute center of the political discourse. The structure of the state and social systems within it, need to be radically changed through collective, large scale socialist production in every area. |
Where in heaven's name did you arrive at the conclusion that India has been under 60 years of bourgeous democracy and capitalism.
You can really make this claim being a decade or so old. Not 60 years.
secondly you complain that capitalism has led to a system where a small majority of people control the masses. Hate to break it to you buddy, but this has been going on on the Indian sub-continent for well over 2000 years. |
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