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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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 Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: WIN Education: Yay, or nay? |
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| I have an interview with these guys next week. Wondering how much BS I should expect to put up with if I work for them. Thanks a bunch! |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: Re: WIN Education: Yay, or nay? |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| I have an interview with these guys next week. Wondering how much BS I should expect to put up with if I work for them. Thanks a bunch! |
If you have a single bank account for payment of which only you have access to, then I might say "Yay"...depending on other contract conditions. Again, who's the contractor? Is it WIN Ed'n or some other place?
If it's their typical scam whereby they control your bank account and payments received, and said payments are ones which you may be held liable by the taxman, I'd definitely say, "Nay". |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure if there's a contractor or if I work directly for them. I go in on Tuesday so I'll find out. I don't understand the dual bank account system, I'm assuming it's sketchy. How do they set it up? |
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oni
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: |
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I've seen their job postings and a friend worked for them a few years ago.
I think it's ridiculous you have to be at the school 2 hours before you start classes and she said there was no way around this.
I do an after school program and go to school 30 mins before class.
Also no dual bank accounts I guess because there's no recruitment company involved. I get paid 60%of student fees and Korean co-teacher 40%. I pay a few hundred thousand to then man who introduced me to school and Korean teacher gives more.
Some of this money about 500,000 won/month is given to the school principal.
This is what really annoys me!!!! The cost of doing business and getting the program in the school. I called it a bribe but I was told it isn't!!!
I like that I get to choose the books I teach and independent from a company and all their bullshit which I've dealt with before. |
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Maka
Joined: 12 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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i've been working with them for the last 11 months and it's been fine. 6 hours a day, 1 hour lunchbreak, 1 hour preparation and 4 hours teaching. Everything has gone smoothly so far except the first week of contract where you only get 50% pay because you're mostly just warming a seat for that week. I let that slide because the ease of the job over the next 51 weeks makes up for it.
If I get my severance pay etc paid then it will have been the dream job, but I've read one or two bad things on dave's about win education so who knows. All i'll say is don't believe everything you read on dave's esl. Most current teachers and the few previous teachers I've talked to have had no problems with them and they've treated me nicely. I'll get back to you in 4 weeks with a glowing review or a hatefilled tirade depending on how my final paycheck goes. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| Maka wrote: |
i've been working with them for the last 11 months and it's been fine. 6 hours a day, 1 hour lunchbreak, 1 hour preparation and 4 hours teaching. Everything has gone smoothly so far except the first week of contract where you only get 50% pay because you're mostly just warming a seat for that week. I let that slide because the ease of the job over the next 51 weeks makes up for it.
If I get my severance pay etc paid then it will have been the dream job, but I've read one or two bad things on dave's about win education so who knows. All i'll say is don't believe everything you read on dave's esl. Most current teachers and the few previous teachers I've talked to have had no problems with them and they've treated me nicely. I'll get back to you in 4 weeks with a glowing review or a hatefilled tirade depending on how my final paycheck goes. |
You'd probably be happy in a Turkish prison.
You don't get a flight home. Depending on where you go, the students are hell on wheels. And you have to clean your classroom. People will bug you about that. Of course, that might depend on where you teach, but...
I was "asked" to teach an extra class during the prep hours. A 38-student, grade 1 class. With no extra pay. And they actually had the balls to make me do a lesson plan. It wasn't what I signed up for.
The 50% pay? I had to work that for 2 weeks and they only applied the 50% pay to weekdays (Monday to Friday). It was 50% of my daily pay. The daily pay is calculated by divided your monthly salary by the number of days in the month (including Saturdays and Sundays). |
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Maka
Joined: 12 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: |
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You'd probably be happy in a Turkish prison.
You don't get a flight home. Depending on where you go, the students are hell on wheels. And you have to clean your classroom. People will bug you about that. Of course, that might depend on where you teach, but...
I was "asked" to teach an extra class during the prep hours. A 38-student, grade 1 class. With no extra pay. And they actually had the balls to make me do a lesson plan. It wasn't what I signed up for.
The 50% pay? I had to work that for 2 weeks and they only applied the 50% pay to weekdays (Monday to Friday). It was 50% of my daily pay. The daily pay is calculated by divided your monthly salary by the number of days in the month (including Saturdays and Sundays). |
Ok, i'll try to defend my position and give a positive experience.
1. No flight home: The salary they pay me compensates for lack of flight home. I'm getting 200,000 a month more than the other job options I had available at the time. Which is 2.4 million over 12 months
2. My student are standard for elementary age, some good some bad. So no major problems there
3. Clean classroom, usually takes 2 mins to sweep the floor although I usually make the bad kids clean it as punishment.
4. 50% pay for 1st week was clearly in the contract so I was aware of what I was signing.
I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for the company, I'm just saying that I've had a good experience so far with them, I'm sure people have had both good and bad experiences with them over the years. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, they cheat you on the 50% pay with their creative accounting.
No pension.
No health.
Only a 400,000/month housing allowance. That'll get you a closet somewhere.
2.4? Big deal. |
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