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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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 Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: Maybe Mark Macdowell has a point |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/30/colorado.prison.sex/index.html[/url]
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Prison employee sentenced to prison for having sex with inmate
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Former prison secretary Janine Sligar had sex with inmate
Sligar sentenced to six months on charge of sexual abuse of a ward
Documents: Sligar, inmate had 10 to 20 sexual encounters
Sligar detailed liaisons in journal, admitted taking and giving inmate graphic photos
(CNN) -- A former prison secretary has been sentenced to six months in federal prison for having sex with an inmate she was supposed to be supervising, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office in the District of Colorado said Friday.
Janine Sligar, 47, of Wray, Colorado, was sentenced Thursday for sexual abuse of a ward. After serving her sentence, she will serve five years of supervised release and must register as a sex offender, spokesman Jeff Dorschner said in a news release.
Sligar, who must surrender to a facility designated by the Bureau of Prisons on March 2, did not respond to a telephone call to her home for comment.
She was indicted in July by a federal grand jury in Denver and pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in October.
According to the plea agreement, Sligar, a 14-year Bureau of Prisons veteran, said she and inmate Eric McClain met in February 2007, when he was assigned to clean her office.
"They began to have conversations and realized they had similar interests," the plea agreement said.
That summer, they initiated a sexual relationship that included 10 to 20 sessions of oral sex and sexual intercourse, ending in October 2007, it said.
The liaisons primarily occurred in a staff restroom in the housing unit at the Federal Prison Camp in Florence, Colorado, according to the agreement.
Sligar, who acknowledged having detailed her activities in a journal, said she obtained a cell phone with a non-local phone number so McClain could call her without raising suspicion and admitted she gave him contraband that included photographs with explicit sexual poses, the plea agreement added.
"Defendant also admitted using her cell phone camera to take graphic pictures of a sexual nature which depict defendant and this inmate," it said.
Authorities began investigating the incident after receiving a tip about the inappropriate relationship. They then learned that Sligar had changed the primary beneficiary on an insurance policy from her children to McClain. A subsequent search of her home turned up the journal and photographs.
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So, a male inmate has consenting (and very willing) sex with a female secretary, and the female is now a registered sex offender? What's the difference between her and Macdowell in the letter of the law? Doesn't appear that the system makes any allowances between hard-core rapist/murderers, misdemeanor molestation, and consensual relationships between adults, once an offender is released from custody. That seems ridiculous to me.
Macdowell said the pedo laws are out of control, and in this case, I whole-heartedly agree, considering this isn't even a pedo case. Once again, Oprah and the pitchfork gang seem to be driving things to the absolute extreme. No way should an adult having sex with another consenting adult be characterized as a sex offender.
Incidentally, does anyone know what happened to the Mark Macdowell thread? It seems to have vanished. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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No he still doesn't have a point. You are comparing apples to oranges. It doesn't mater that they got sold for the exact same price. It is an underaged youth vs. a consenting adult convict.
Really Bass, you have gone below the bar on this one. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Maybe Mark Macdowell has a point |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
[url]
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/30/colorado.prison.sex/index.html[/url]
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Prison employee sentenced to prison for having sex with inmate
Story Highlights
Former prison secretary Janine Sligar had sex with inmate
Sligar sentenced to six months on charge of sexual abuse of a ward
Documents: Sligar, inmate had 10 to 20 sexual encounters
Sligar detailed liaisons in journal, admitted taking and giving inmate graphic photos
(CNN) -- A former prison secretary has been sentenced to six months in federal prison for having sex with an inmate she was supposed to be supervising, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office in the District of Colorado said Friday.
Janine Sligar, 47, of Wray, Colorado, was sentenced Thursday for sexual abuse of a ward. After serving her sentence, she will serve five years of supervised release and must register as a sex offender, spokesman Jeff Dorschner said in a news release.
Sligar, who must surrender to a facility designated by the Bureau of Prisons on March 2, did not respond to a telephone call to her home for comment.
She was indicted in July by a federal grand jury in Denver and pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in October.
According to the plea agreement, Sligar, a 14-year Bureau of Prisons veteran, said she and inmate Eric McClain met in February 2007, when he was assigned to clean her office.
"They began to have conversations and realized they had similar interests," the plea agreement said.
That summer, they initiated a sexual relationship that included 10 to 20 sessions of oral sex and sexual intercourse, ending in October 2007, it said.
The liaisons primarily occurred in a staff restroom in the housing unit at the Federal Prison Camp in Florence, Colorado, according to the agreement.
Sligar, who acknowledged having detailed her activities in a journal, said she obtained a cell phone with a non-local phone number so McClain could call her without raising suspicion and admitted she gave him contraband that included photographs with explicit sexual poses, the plea agreement added.
"Defendant also admitted using her cell phone camera to take graphic pictures of a sexual nature which depict defendant and this inmate," it said.
Authorities began investigating the incident after receiving a tip about the inappropriate relationship. They then learned that Sligar had changed the primary beneficiary on an insurance policy from her children to McClain. A subsequent search of her home turned up the journal and photographs.
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So, a male inmate has consenting (and very willing) sex with a female secretary, and the female is now a registered sex offender? What's the difference between her and Macdowell in the letter of the law? Doesn't appear that the system makes any allowances between hard-core rapist/murderers, misdemeanor molestation, and consensual relationships between adults, once an offender is released from custody. That seems ridiculous to me.
Macdowell said the pedo laws are out of control, and in this case, I whole-heartedly agree, considering this isn't even a pedo case. Once again, Oprah and the pitchfork gang seem to be driving things to the absolute extreme. No way should an adult having sex with another consenting adult be characterized as a sex offender.
Incidentally, does anyone know what happened to the Mark Macdowell thread? It seems to have vanished. |
She was in a position of authority and she had sex with a person supposed to be under her care. She should be a registered sex offender.. If it was a male gaurd and a female inmate, would you think the same way. I doubt it. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, this has nothing to do with living in Korea. Why is this even here? |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| It's a forced subordinate relationship... There can't be legal consent between a teacher and a student in high school even if she's 18, and there can't be consent between a prison guard and an inmate. There are other relationships that violate this, use your imagination. It's still not legal, and it's still rape. And yes, statutory rape is rape. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| It's a forced subordinate relationship... There can't be legal consent between a teacher and a student in high school even if she's 18, and there can't be consent between a prison guard and an inmate |
Nonsense. I've known a few schools where consensual sex between adult students and teachers is tolerated. Why not? It is very easy to produce stopgaps, such as external examiners, to ensure that the student isn't treated unfairly. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
No he still doesn't have a point. You are comparing apples to oranges. It doesn't mater that they got sold for the exact same price. It is an underaged youth vs. a consenting adult convict.
Really Bass, you have gone below the bar on this one. |
I don't think it's apples to oranges. What he's talking about (partially) is laws with too broad of a stroke as to what constitutes a "sex offender". I think apples to oranges is teenagers compared to an adult male. I don't see the male as a victim, and I certainly don't see the woman as a sex offender, certainly not at all in the same category as a man having sexual relations with a middle school girl. |
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