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[Tigerstyleone]

What are my career options if I get a MA in Education with a concentration in ESL ??

I posted this in Korea, but I wonder what and where can I make the most money and have the best quality of life too ? Korea, Japan, Hong Kong ???

[jboney]

[Tigerstyleone]

Please, can I get real advice. I'm not going to teach ESL in the US.

[bogey666]

[bobranger]

[runthegauntlet]

[runthegauntlet]

[jboney]

My advice was real, and was serious. If you want to make the most money teaching ESL (and you have a Masters degree in Education) then the place where you will make the most money is the U.S.

Starting salary in NYC public schools for an ESL teacher with an initial teaching certificate and a Masters is $45,500/yr. Then with years teaching, and other certs. and prof. development it only goes up from there...

Also, ESL is not just in high demand in city schools, even suburban neighborhoods with lots of funding and plush comfy schools will experience an influx of immigrant students (from any part of the world) and be in high demand of an ESL teacher and be willing to start them off with $50,000+/yr.

This is just public school. Theres's also the prospect of teaching ESL at community/ junior colleges, as well as ESL Schools.

[Wisconsinite]

[arizona]

Are you kidding? I am a Secondary certified ESL/ELL teacher here in Arizona. First of all, my salary is only close to $38,000 a year (after almost 10 years of teaching experience) before taxes. Also, there are so many f*^#$ing professional developments you need to go to keep or renew your certification and Department of Education is always changing their policy in ESL/ELL because none of those so-called master and ph.d degree people was ESL teacher but all were actually English teachers. They simply do not understand the difference between Englsih teaching and ESL teaching.Yeah, you might earn a certain amount of money for your master's degree somewhere in the U.S. with a certain number of years in teaching. However, the paper work including special ed. logs, advanced ed.visits, professional development,curriculum development, parent-teacher conferences, grading, and on and on and on..... It is non stop.Oh, did I mention how ridiculous the students are? I can't generalize every student but there is a distinct difference between asian and non-asian students.I may sound like I am complaining but being a teacher in the U.S. is not an easy thing compared to some other options we have.

[Wisconsinite]

In my opinion, teaching ESL in the states has great advantages. When I compare all of the places in the world I could teach ESL and earn the best money and benefits, in my opinion, America is still the best place. I have worked abroad and here in America and the stability, salary, benefits, and lifestyle are what keep me here.

There are many cool places in the country to work and they need ESL teachers. They offer very nice salaries and the cost of living is quite low. Some of those cities are the best places to live in America. Obviously, don't go to Arizona, they don't treat their teachers very well.

At the end of the day, one needs to consider what they want out of life and make their own decision.

[Faunaki]

I've taught ESL in Canada and it pays very well. Once I get my MEd I'm gonna get a uni job back home. The starting rate is 50$ an hour. If I decide to get a Phd in TESL the average rate of pay is 100,000 to 140,000 a year. That's nothing to cough at.

[bassexpander]

[jkelly80]

My sis has a MEd in English Lit and started at 42k for the Chicago Public Schools. I don't think you make that much more for having an ESL endorsement and a master's. She did mention ESL programs will pay off debt for you, whereas most other teachers don't' have this luxury.

[hugekebab]