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I smacked an ajosshi on the bus yesterday.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"90 seconds? You let him hold your tie that long?"

Anything longer than how long it takes him to realize how bad he screwed up is too long. I think that's about 1.9 seconds.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah 90 seconds!! Was that a typo?

I once had a crazy guy accost me in a subway station while I was walking to work. Demanding to see my ID. He grabbed my jacket. I was initially polite but I think that just encouraged him. Once I yanked his hand away and started swearing at him to not effing touch me his tune changed and he just went away. You meet some crazies around that's for sure!!
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As bad as some old adjusshis can be, I think I like them a lot more than the spoiled newer generation.

Whoever thinks racial prejudice is improving with the passing of the older Korean generations is fooling themselves. I see it getting worse not better. Less conservative and traditional maybe, but more spoiled, elitist, selfish, materialistic, and rude.

Where the rest of the world tends to be moving away from racist attitudes, your average Korean is still mired in them and teaches them to the children. Or hadn't anyone noticed this?

At least adjusshis usually keep to themselves (unless they're piss drunk), but the newer guys love to talk smack and giggle under their breath and stare you down and criticize everyone not Korean. And I'm talking about the cooler ones that are nice to your face.

Also, if anyone thought Gyopos were any less racist, talk to one of them for a while. Really ask them what they think about certain races (anyone besides Asians actually)...chances are they don't think any differently than most adjusshis. Or in many cases they are more racist because they have to deal with other races on a more constant basis.

If you find some Korean friends who accept you for who you are, they are some of the best friends imaginable, but those types of Koreans tend to be in the extreme minority, unfortunately.
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Ronald



Joined: 14 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Bad idea Reply with quote

Most of you guys seem to play it pretty cool. I hope nobody hits any of these clowns. they want to to be hit! They will try to chase you as long as they can until police arrive and they YOU will have to pay money. You will be forking out at least a cool Million to some dumb ajoshi or ajuma if you get caught.
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travel zen



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not if you bury them somewhere ...
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
a taxi driver adjossi once was in the wrong lane to turn - and he had my destination, it was NOT a miscommunication - I thought he didn't know where he was going - and I knew if he turned wrong I'd be in big trouble (no where to u-turn) - I was sitting in the front seat next to him

so I gently punched his arm trying to get his attention as I pointed towards the right and gave the K word for "right" - this guy swung around and actually hit me and pushed me away from him (not hard but his expression was as in " how dare I touch him" - get real !!!

I started shouting at him and walloped him good with BOTH fists and shouted to let me out - which he did - and I was STILL shouting at him and punching on him - and he looked scared out of his wits - I was so furious!!!! how dare he!!!!

and yes, I'm female guys. no, I didn't hit his face.


How dare he?

You acted like a lunatic.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really have any interesting stories...

One time I was crossing the road on the way to the gym and some dude knocked into me..He was talking to his pals...He span round and looked at me as though I had hit him...If it was back home he would have kicked off...but after a couple of seconds of eye contact, he bowed and said sorry...and i went off to the gym.

Thats about it..

The crazy christian guys are kinda fun ajosshis..

The drunk ones dont really bother me..ever.

Taxi ajosshis...always found them pleasant enough when im actually in the taxi...Although i regularly want to strangle them when they refuse to pic me up for short journeys at the weekends. Evil or Very Mad
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Forward Observer



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite thing to do is the revenge doctrine. When I'm on a subway or some other space, when there is clearly enough room for him to walk without shoving, bumping, or stepping on my feet - and he clearly violates what 90% of normal Koreans consider polite behavior, i.e. moving their body slightly so as not to bump, shove or push their way through the space - I invoke the revenge doctrine.

The revenge doctrine involves using force exactly twice the strength I receive from the offender. Whatever it is that he does, he gets it twice as bad from me. I usually wait until that person is comfortable situated in whatever spot they've decided on in the car, and hit them when they least expect it. I don't invoke the revenge doctrine on women and children, and not always on every adjoshhi that bumps me. It's usually only carried out on the serious offenders that think they're so important that they can carry out their shit behavior and no one will say/do anything. And always, it's carried out as 'accidental' - and I never look back.
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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forward Observer wrote:
My favorite thing to do is the revenge doctrine. When I'm on a subway or some other space, when there is clearly enough room for him to walk without shoving, bumping, or stepping on my feet - and he clearly violates what 90% of normal Koreans consider polite behavior, i.e. moving their body slightly so as not to bump, shove or push their way through the space - I invoke the revenge doctrine.

The revenge doctrine involves using force exactly twice the strength I receive from the offender. Whatever it is that he does, he gets it twice as bad from me. I usually wait until that person is comfortable situated in whatever spot they've decided on in the car, and hit them when they least expect it. I don't invoke the revenge doctrine on women and children, and not always on every adjoshhi that bumps me. It's usually only carried out on the serious offenders that think they're so important that they can carry out their shit behavior and no one will say/do anything. And always, it's carried out as 'accidental' - and I never look back.



Wow! I do this too. The revenge doctrine. It has a good ring to it. But, I can't believe someone has gotten to the point where the 'revenge doctrine' is necessary. I thought I was the only one who had to do this.
I have no problem using it on women either. (I would not do it to children though).
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm anyone is fair game in Sparkling Korea
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm... I generally try to avoid confrontations and have done pretty well over the years I've been here. However, that doesn't mean I haven't wanted to address some people in that time. The most recent time was last night. I had just picked my wife up (she isn't that heavy Smile ) and was waiting for oncoming traffic to clear so I could turn left. I was just starting to turn when a taxi speeds up along my right, cuts me off, and turns in front of me. I was boiling angry. He stopped with his fare shortly down the road; as I drove slowly by, I honked the horn a few times at him. My wife was not happy with me doing so.

A dozen or so years ago, I was on a train back to Gyeongju from a KOTESOL conference. I was riding back with a friend. We were chatting in not-too-loud voices, but this guy (probably in his late 20s/early 30s) turned around and said, "Shut up!" I just told him, "No, I won't," and continued with the conversation. He turned around again and said, "I told you to shut up!" I replied, "I told you, no, I won't." He was the one who was quite loud, not us. After that, he would frequently turn around and glare and I would glare back. I mentioned to my friend that we should be careful when getting off the train in case the idiot got off too; the guy stayed on the train. I'm glad he didn't get off because, although I always try to be non-confrontational, I won't back down if pressed.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised he was so bold to say it in English. I might have said "why don't you make me." I doubt he would do anything.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
I'm surprised he was so bold to say it in English. I might have said "why don't you make me." I doubt he would do anything.


Actually (from what little I heard), his English pronunciation was fairly good. I would guess he was probably a gyopo with a burr in his bonnet (or elsewhere).
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a gherkin up his ass.
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NaD00D00



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Gimpo

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone said something about problems being with younger gens/Gyopos; I agree.

2 or 3 weekends ago me and some friends were in Hongdae. We were on our way to finding taxis home on a busy street corner, when a fight broke out near us. We didn't pay mind since we were literally getting out taxis to leave, until a drunk guy was pushed and totally slammed down on the ground near us. My friend and I responded naturally with a, "Damn, he got fucked up," kind of expression.

But then, all of a sudden, his friend ran up to us and got in our faces, yelling obscenities us out in English and all that. I tried to tell him we had nothing to do with it, but he just kept instigating. Mind you, my friend and I are pretty athletic, work out at the gym regularly, so we're not like, pushovers or anything, and this guy was a pretty small Korean/Gyopo. Eventually, things died down, but it was still annoying.


An a lighter note, I was on a subway one night talking to someone in English, and this old, drunk adjossi grabbed my shoulder. I looked at him with a serious face, and there was this like, uneasy silence all around us. He looks at me seriously, then smiles and blunders out in a FOB accent, "I can speak English too!" We all started laughing and we went our separate ways.
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