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Chuvok



Joined: 25 Jan 2009
Location: Russia

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Writers in real life Reply with quote

I've made a new rule for myself that I'm not going to try and learn about the authors I read.


Why, you ask?


Well, time and time again I find a good book that appeals to me, read it with pleasure, then go looking for other books the author has written. Eventually I look online to see who the author actually is... and almost always it seems I discover something about the author that is distasteful and lowers my opinion of them, and by proxy, their writing.

For example, a couple of years I read 'Fight Club' by Chuck Palahniuk. Surely, most people have seen the movie. The book is much better! Palahniuk... I figured he was a Slav of some sort, living in the US. The type of person who is very skeptical about culture, young-ish, average guy with something to say.

So, I do a Google search and find a website that appears to be the official Palahniuk site. I click on the forum, and what do I see as topic??? "Chuck Palahniuk is gay". Not just gay, but an Uber-homo!

Now, I don't really care if people are gay. I'm not gay. Live and let live. But when I enjoyed a book like 'Fight Club', which happens to be about a young man who dreams up an idealised male alter ego/friend.... well, discovering Palahniuk is gay made me wonder why he wrote the book. Was Tyler Durden a homosexual fantasy of some sort? At the time the book's lack of female characters (Marla Singer being a very weak character) was refreshing, with none of the typical male/female politics, sort of like going fishing with your father and brothers, no need to think about girlfriends or wives and mother for a few hours! But again, learning Palahniuk is gay ruined that. The book became a homosexual's way of maginalising women. One line of the book stands out; "I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need." of course not, if you're a gay author, you want men men men...



Another recent example is Orson Scott Card. The author best known for his 'Ender's Game' series. Again, I read a number of his books, enjoyed them a great deal, and found myself doing a Wikipedia search to see who he is. Turns out he's a rather nutty Mormon with some really foul conservative political views, and an ego the size of Siberia. So what? Well, again knowing who he is in real life taints his books for me. I don't want to read any more of an a**hole's books.


So, as I've said, my new rule is not to look-up authors. I'll just read their books (or listen to audio books) and pretend they are good people.



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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I found out that my favorite ever carver line(and his style) was created by his editor, I was kind of sad.

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Now, I don't really care if people are gay


Oh but you do.. anyway enjoy the book on your level, I'm sure that's what authors want anyway.

I find it kind of amusing that your great macho fantasy was so undermined though.
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are much better reasons to dislike Chuck Palahniuk's writing--like, for instance, the fact that he is a hack.
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had read Invisible Monsters first I'm sure you would have a different tune.
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
If you had read Invisible Monsters first I'm sure you would have a different tune.


You mean this? http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/fall99/palahniuk1.htm

I got through 5 paragraphs before I had to stop. Utterly artless, obvious, hackneyed writing.
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poemer wrote:
HapKi wrote:
If you had read Invisible Monsters first I'm sure you would have a different tune.


You mean this? http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/fall99/palahniuk1.htm

I got through 5 paragraphs before I had to stop. Utterly artless, obvious, hackneyed writing.


This is unrelated but do you like Thomas Clayton Wolfe?
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not familiar with him, but from the wiki description of his prose style, i'm curious now. How is is stuff?

What made you ask?
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poemer wrote:
I'm not familiar with him, but from the wiki description of his prose style, i'm curious now. How is is stuff?


I think his stuff is dreadful. The verbosity of Thomas Hardy times the dullness of Henry James.

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What made you ask?


He's 'certified classic' so a lot of well-read readers read him. When someone says they like him I know never to listen to that person again.
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"certified classic" huh? "academic" lit is as full of fads as "pop" lit. I enjoy stuff that's good, not certified by someone else. So, you're not gonna catch me out that way Smile
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also ironic that Chuck Palahniuk is my Thomas Clayton Wolfe for the purposes of weeding out people whose literary opinions I can discard.
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happened to me when I read the Bible.
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