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Jobs that don't have a salary cap for foreign teachers
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jonbowman88



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Jobs that don't have a salary cap for foreign teachers Reply with quote

Many Korean teachers here make like 5 million won/month after teaching here 15-20 yrs. EPIK teachers max out at like 2.6. Are there jobs out there that will pay like that for foreign teachers?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Jobs that don't have a salary cap for foreign teachers Reply with quote

jonbowman88 wrote:
Many Korean teachers here make like 5 million won/month after teaching here 15-20 yrs. EPIK teachers max out at like 2.6. Are there jobs out there that will pay like that for foreign teachers?


They probably also work more hours then you do ....
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) University teaching positions for MA holders (and in some cases BA holders ) where the university does not impose term limits.

2) Tenure track university positions a

3) The Hong Kong NET program. Sorry, not Korea, and I think there is a cap, but it's pretty high.
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4) Hagwons. The most unlimited of these four -- depending on the hagwon, of course.
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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot wrote:
4) Hagwons. The most unlimited of these four -- depending on the hagwon, of course.


What hagwons do you have in mind?
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't kid yourself. Hakwons have a cap for salaried workers. Just ask the Hakwon Association.

The only way around it is to work as a 'private contractor' at the hakwon and get paid by the student rather than on salary. Of course, this means that you can kiss any benefits, including your housing and insurance, goodbye. It also means that they'll want you performing as much as possible to maximize the return on 'their space'. To begin, you might make a 30% cut. You'll be working splits and teaching 8 classes a day, at least that's the way it used to work. It's no less a meat grinder at prep academies and teenie crapwons, either.

There's a method to their madness.
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prostitution.
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IIILALALAIII



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="sobriquet"]prostitution.[/quote]


is this all you can think of?

whatever you say, it describes you.

shame on you.
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIILALALAIII wrote:
sobriquet wrote:
prostitution.



is this all you can think of?

whatever you say, it describes you.

shame on you.


Rolling Eyes
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the one hand, it's better to just ignore the inane comments from the under 25 crowd. On the other hand, some people need the negative reinforcement to drive home the point that they're just not amusing what-so-ever. Eventually, they'll get it. If not, they'll go through life with everyone around them just shaking their heads or shrugging, thinking, 'What a schmuck.' Sad, really.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only people I have met that earned those big bucks, who I believed, worked their arses off.

One person doubled her ps salary by doing privates until about 11pm every night, 4 days a week.

The other works for CDI, and occasionally makes that sort of money, but has to provide her own housing, and gets no benefits. She worked long hours and weekends for that sort of money.

5 million jobs, 40 hours a week do exist in Korea, but you need real skills to get them, not teaching English in normal teaching jobs.

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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One would presume that a decent international school would have no salary caps here.

Not Kims 'International' school, but somewhere that expats send their kids. Something similar to Harrow in Bangkok or IBS

However most decent internationals are not going to hire in country. They also only hire qualified teachers, not people with degrees in yak farming or such like.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. See choice 1 above. I have a load of friends in university ESL positions who make 5 million a month and they don't work anywhere near 40 hours a week! Those jobs aren't handed out on a plate though, and the ones that make it possible to make 5 million a month are getting harder to come by. It takes some doing, and the MA doesn't hurt either. Like other markets in other countries, it never hurts to invest in yourself.
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming to think of it, I have never heard of any international schools in Seoul.


What are the best expat type schools that to do IB
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good point, but there are even fewer of those positions than the others mentioned previously! I've met quite a few of the internatinoal school teachers and they are indeed very professional. Don't know how their salaries are structered, but I don't think they have term limits or caps.
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