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catman

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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: Do you ever talk to Koreans about the Korean war? |
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.....or is this a topic that should be avoided all together? |
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Caro wack
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Depends who you talk to. If you can identify the 0.5% of the
population who wasn't brainwashed in Korean public schools
against the truth of what happened on the K peninsula 1945-1953,
you may have the basis for a conversation. Otherwise , forget it.
Of course, it also depends on if YOU know the facts. Here's a
good one: Why is President Harry Truman not recognized
by the Korean government with a monument? Never in world history has one man done more for
another (insignificant) country not his own.
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Missihippi

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Location: Gwangmyeong
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've talked about it with my co-teacher (who is late 20's) before, and she didn't seem to know much about it. I don't think most younger Koreans have much interest in history, in my short experiance here. I don't think it's a taboo topic for younger gens though. |
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antoniothegreat

Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Caro wack wrote: |
Depends who you talk to. If you can identify the 0.5% of the
population who wasn't brainwashed in Korean public schools
against the truth of what happened on the K peninsula 1945-1953,
you may have the basis for a conversation. Otherwise , forget it.
Of course, it also depends on if YOU know the facts. Here's a
good one: Why is President Harry Truman not recognized
by the Korean government with a monument? Never in world history has one man done more for another (insignificant) country not his own. |
ditto that. more than a few koreans were surprised when i told them 50,000 americans died here. they thought it was like 50. they thought the US sent small advisers and air power.
i went on a tour of the DMZ, during the entire tour, they referred to everything as the UN (correct, but the UN was made up of 90% american forces) and the only time they actually said america was when they said that MacArthur wanted to nuke north korea, china and the USSR. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yup - The Dream Eye Clinic doctor asked me to thank my father as did a couple of the nurses there for being part of the British forces that fought here. It was very nice of them I thought. |
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ppcg4

Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I've talked to most of my Korean friends about it when they blurt out how much they hate the US. I agree that the current US presence here has kind of dragged on a bit, but very few of them know how much they owe to the US. (I'm Canadian BTW)
Had the US not helped out against the nasty Soviet commies, this would be Kim Jong Il's version of paradise. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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ppcg4 wrote: |
I've talked to most of my Korean friends about it when they blurt out how much they hate the US. I agree that the current US presence here has kind of dragged on a bit, but very few of them know how much they owe to the US. (I'm Canadian BTW)
Had the US not helped out against the nasty Soviet commies, this would be Kim Jong Il's version of paradise. |
I'm no fan of US foreign policy but if there are two countries who should be on their knees in gratitude to the US one of them is South Korea - the other one already is which is of course Israel - the average Jewish-Israeli worships the United States. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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ppcg4 wrote: |
I've talked to most of my Korean friends about it when they blurt out how much they hate the US. I agree that the current US presence here has kind of dragged on a bit, but very few of them know how much they owe to the US. (I'm Canadian BTW)
Had the US not helped out against the nasty Soviet commies, this would be Kim Jong Il's version of paradise. |
I'm no fan of US foreign policy but if there are two countries who should be on their knees in gratitude to the US one of them is South Korea - the other one already is which is of course Israel - the average Jewish-Israeli worships the United States. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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I wouldnt mind talking to survivors who fought in the mountains and in the trenches. I just dont know where to find them. I`m sure Korea has a VA but |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I've heard some pretty insane stories from my mother-in-law (she was around 6 when it started). If you're talking to survivors of the war, don't expect a lot of pleasant stories. Nobody came out of that thing with a smile on their face. |
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denistron
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:48 am Post subject: |
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From the younger generation it seems like mass amnesia. All you hear about is the Japanese occupation. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:09 am Post subject: |
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denistron wrote: |
From the younger generation it seems like mass amnesia. All you hear about is the Japanese occupation. |
or Takeshima |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: |
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bundangbabo wrote: |
ppcg4 wrote: |
I've talked to most of my Korean friends about it when they blurt out how much they hate the US. I agree that the current US presence here has kind of dragged on a bit, but very few of them know how much they owe to the US. (I'm Canadian BTW)
Had the US not helped out against the nasty Soviet commies, this would be Kim Jong Il's version of paradise. |
I'm no fan of US foreign policy but if there are two countries who should be on their knees in gratitude to the US one of them is South Korea - the other one already is which is of course Israel - the average Jewish-Israeli worships the United States. |
I'm sure you could name a few others...with ease. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Hillary wasn't wrong when she brought up 'historical amnesia' when describing South Korea and its mainstream views on its recent history, wonder if she'll bring it up again when she visits this week?
I like to think of nations going through development stages much like people do. South Korea's - despite all its economic and technological advances of the past three decades - still at the awkward teenage phase where it's unsure of itself and its place in the world. Like teenagers, it often has trouble distinguishing friend from foe and has a tendency to bite the hand that feeds - or at least, helped feed - it.
I'd like to think in a generation or two, 20 or 30 years down the track, possibly after reunification with the North, and after northerners come to terms with how shitty a hand they were dealt and after southerners realise just how delusional and easily manipulated they were; Korea as a whole will realise that the Allies - in particular, the US, whilst not entirely angels, were definitely the better of the two forces on the Korean peninsula. Hopefully, Korea by that stage will be willing to look at its painful past with a more objective and critical eye. As clearly, the vast majority are unable to do so at this current point in time.
* - I'd also like to think that by that time, the chief manipulators in the great delusion that it is the Korean educational system's version of modern history have been exposed for what they were and Korea's history is taught with a more even, balanced account. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
I wouldnt mind talking to survivors who fought in the mountains and in the trenches. I just dont know where to find them. I`m sure Korea has a VA but |
Can you speak Korean? There always hundreds of older adjoshis in the park a couple blocks from Jongno 3-ga Station exit 2. Just walk straight and you'll see them. |
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