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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: I teach your future co-teachers Reply with quote
For all of you SMOE, EPIK, GOEPIKASDFJKLOMGWTFBBQ, etc. teachers out there, I have a question. You see, I teach people preparing to become public English teachers, so I want to know what you wish your co-teacher had been taught, but obviously wasn't.
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Elric222



Joined: 19 Nov 2008
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Please teach them the proper meanings of the word 'communication' and 'co-teaching.'

E.g.1 Give a few of the infinite examples of how frustrating it is to be always told everything at the last minute.

E.g.2 Co-teaching does not mean walking out the room at the first available opportunity.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: I teach your future co-teachers Reply with quote
michaelambling wrote:
what you wish your co-teacher had been taught, but obviously wasn't.


English?

Sorry, this job is too big for you. Quit now.

Just print out a few of the comments from threads here on what is considered a bad co-teacher. Hand them around the class, play out some scenarios or role-plays.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah... how to speak English would be #1 on my list! Wink
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nicam



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yup, English.

I often wonder if the co-teachers teach their English classes in Korean, and that's why the students and the teachers themselves are so poor at English.

When I took Spanish in college we were only allowed to speak in Spanish during class after the first two introductory courses, and our teachers only spoke in Spanish to us, so we were forced to use the language or look whatever we wanted to say up in the book before saying it.

I still haven't heard a good explanation for why Koreans are so poor at English despite the amount of time they spend studying it. Good luck, OP.
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
nicam wrote:
Yup, English.

I often wonder if the co-teachers teach their English classes in Korean, and that's why the students and the teachers themselves are so poor at English.

When I took Spanish in college we were only allowed to speak in Spanish during class after the first two introductory courses, and our teachers only spoke in Spanish to us, so we were forced to use the language or look whatever we wanted to say up in the book before saying it.

I still haven't heard a good explanation for why Koreans are so poor at English despite the amount of time they spend studying it. Good luck, OP.


I met my employer and co-workers in the department for the first time today, and we discussed this very topic. We all agreed that it was due to a focus on grammar and memorization in the class room at the public school levels, which is why we need to teach them to use communicative methods and de-emphasize the importance of passing tests.

No one will listen to me and everyone will just do what's easiest and gets them promoted, but it's still worth a shot.
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nicam



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm glad there's someone like you who at least gets to voice these issues to the higher-ups, even if to no avail. One starts to wonder if they have a clue. I guess they do.

Another thing I noticed, and this is a bit random as I know it doesn't fall within your employer's jurisdiction, is that given one FT, a district will place that FT in the middle schools instead of the elementary school, which goes against the critical period for language acquisition. The younger they learn...
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Please choose some good looking ones and let them pass. Hot co-teachers would be great.

In my whole time here I have only seen one nice looking English co -teacher who visited our school just for one day.
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roknroll



Joined: 29 Dec 2007
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
michaelambling wrote:
nicam wrote:
Yup, English.

I often wonder if the co-teachers teach their English classes in Korean, and that's why the students and the teachers themselves are so poor at English.

When I took Spanish in college we were only allowed to speak in Spanish during class after the first two introductory courses, and our teachers only spoke in Spanish to us, so we were forced to use the language or look whatever we wanted to say up in the book before saying it.

I still haven't heard a good explanation for why Koreans are so poor at English despite the amount of time they spend studying it. Good luck, OP.


I met my employer and co-workers in the department for the first time today, and we discussed this very topic. We all agreed that it was due to a focus on grammar and memorization in the class room at the public school levels, which is why we need to teach them to use communicative methods and de-emphasize the importance of passing tests.

No one will listen to me and everyone will just do what's easiest and gets them promoted, but it's still worth a shot.


I think it would be easier to move Mt. Baekdu, and while you're at it, can you situate it near me, cus I really need a mountain to climb out here. I've tried the communicative approach ad nauseum, and it's simply to steep, treacherous, and surpasses the highest clouds. Fortunately, I'm blessed with an obsessive-compulsive disorder and I fit-in like a glove. However, I still need the feeling of accomplishment, so go on, move that mountain.
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Rae



Joined: 10 Oct 2007
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Please remind them of our situation