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How old can you work as an English teacher in Korea?
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: How old can you work as an English teacher in Korea? Reply with quote

I am 60 years old in the Western age counting system but 62 in the Korean system.

What I would like to find out is:

1. How old one can work in the public school system. My contract comes up for renewal in a couple of months so I'm trying to find out if age will restrict my school from offering me a new contract.

Of course, I could have my supervisors here at school research this question, but I'd rather not because I want to de-emphasize my age rather than drawing any unnecessary attention to it.

2. Beyond teaching in the public schools, does anyone know how old one can legally teach in private schools (hagwons)?

Thanks.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a teacher as old as 69 who was working with GEPIK.

Obviously, the schools can hire you even if you are a bit long in the tooth. Whether they want to is a different story.
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherside wrote:
I know of a teacher as old as 69 who was working with GEPIK.

Obviously, the schools can hire you even if you are a bit long in the tooth. Whether they want to is a different story.


Thanks for your info, Otherside. I was hoping to hear from other teachers with direct experience in these issues. I must be the only old teacher in Korea. Or, maybe they're just all out partying in Itaewon and don't spend any time reading this forum. Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

cheers.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was a guy at the gepik july orientation who stood up and talked about ageism and age discrimination for whatever reason, and I think implied that he was in his sixties. (he sure as hell looked younger to me though).

from reading around here, I know there are at least several guys tattering on the edge of geezerdom (if not already there) teaching here.

(I'm saying "geezer" with affection Very Happy ) Old guys need love too, in fact ESPECIALLY old guys.


if I were to find myself in such a situation, I'd say your best bet would be to work and become liked at a school while being a bit younger, then renewing, you will be seen as a good teacher and an asset instead of as a commodity with an age number attached to it.

In fact, establishing personal relationships with Koreans on track to be VP's and principals (if not there already) is a key to your success. This way, if someone you're on excellent terms with becomes a VP somewhere or best yet, a principal - you have a lead in, at worst, you have a contact, and remember Korean teachers within school systems move around constantly and they network.

So - once you have a good rep from someone high up in the food chain, they can recommend you to a friend, etc.

don't get me wrong, age is a barrier but not an insurmountable one.

btw.. it's equally important that your young students like you, because if they do not, and the hierarchy notices it, then no amount of ass kissing and networking etc will help much.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think age might actually help with some of the higher-ups at schools.. probably have more in common with them if you're both in your fifties than some fresh face right out of college
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:
I think age might actually help with some of the higher-ups at schools.. probably have more in common with them if you're both in your fifties than some fresh face right out of college


TRUE.

the guy at my school last year was straight out of school. I'm significantly older... and though my VP is still a good decade older than I am, at heart he's a big kid...

he told me he feels "more comfortable" with me because we are closer in age (he likes practicing his English with me, it's very important to him and I'm more than happy to oblige, I get treated like gold in return).

So, my age works to my benefit despite the fact I have yet to begin acting or looking for that matter, "age appropriate".

but in the OP's case, he will be older than many/most at his school. I'm not sure how that dynamic would work.
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seoulteacher



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherside wrote:
I know of a teacher as old as 69 who was working with GEPIK.

Obviously, the schools can hire you even if you are a bit long in the tooth. Whether they want to is a different story.


WOW!
69 and holding: that is such good news to ol' critters like me!
OK, I'm not quite that old (I'm in my late 50s), and I certainly don't feel old, but this is very encouraging: I'll financially need to work well past the historical retirement age of 65.

PS: "was working with GEPIK": why the past tense?
Or was 69, but is now closing in on 75 and still hard at it? Smile
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Viaje



Joined: 03 Feb 2009
Location: Indebted, USA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a teacher in Korea who is 61, just renewed at the same public school. I am 53 and considering going there. He told me 55 is the cutoff for new hires(not sure if that's true) but they renewed him because he has been there and is a good teacher.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulteacher wrote:
Otherside wrote:
I know of a teacher as old as 69 who was working with GEPIK.

Obviously, the schools can hire you even if you are a bit long in the tooth. Whether they want to is a different story.


WOW!
69 and holding: that is such good news to ol' critters like me!
OK, I'm not quite that old (I'm in my late 50s), and I certainly don't feel old, but this is very encouraging: I'll financially need to work well past the historical retirement age of 65.

PS: "was working with GEPIK": why the past tense?
Or was 69, but is now closing in on 75 and still hard at it? Smile


He went home in November I think, overall I think he had a good experience and felt it was time to move on (as the semester had practically finished, and only deskwarming remained). I'm 99% certain the school asked him to renew. He was a pretty popular teacher in our city, and even gave a presentation at one of our GEPIK meets. Based on appearance he could've passed for late 50s though.
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refikaM



Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: age.. Reply with quote

I'm a PS school teacher in Gangwondo...I'm 54 and have had no problems; however, I look (and act!) much younger. But still, everyone knows my age since it seems to be an issue in Korea knowing one's age.. You'll get asked a lot... I heard that Gangwondo EPIK has "unofficially" lowered its age cutoff to the mid-forties... but don't know how well that's enforced... Nonetheless, you should have few problems securing a position in a public school in one of the provinces here...
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