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bassexpander
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 Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: Podcast: Landlord taken to court for stealing deposit |
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A landlord cheated a foreign teacher and his Korean wife out of their deposit when they moved out of their apartment. What did they do about it? They took their landlord to court, and the landlord eventually had to pay. Hear this wildly interesting story about how the Korean legal system works when a landlord cheats a tenant out of a deposit, complete with stickers on auction items and Matrix-like government bouncers.
www.themidnightrunner.com |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! 
As usual, very entertaining Bass. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. It was a very interesting (and frustrating) story about how the legal system favors the landlord here.
If the story doesn't play, please keep the page open in the background and it eventually should. I think they're making some changes and sometimes playback is slow to start. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| Thanks. It was a very interesting (and frustrating) story about how the legal system favors the landlord here. |
It seems like that's their system of civil law. It's like the dude said, the guy gets like 10 second chances to do the right thing. We're not used to that. |
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mayorgc
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| i really want to hear it, but i'm at work right now and there's no sound system? can someone provide a short summary? |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| mayorgc wrote: |
| i really want to hear it, but i'm at work right now and there's no sound system? can someone provide a short summary? |
On moving day, the landlord walked in and trumped up a bunch of bogus "damages" to cheat them out of their deposit. Between a few nail holes and a smudge on the floor, he amassed 2.5 million in charges. There was nothing that could immediately be done, and the interviewee took the landlord to court to get their money back. The landlord stalled many times, and eventually refused to pay, even though the court told him to. The next step was that the gov't sent in some matrix-looking mafia types to break into his house and put stickers on things to auction off his possessions. In the end, the interviewee got his money, but it took like a year.
This was a married Korean/westerner family, and had it been a teacher on an E-2, you can pretty much see how it'd be next to impossible for them to get their money back. It really shows how tenants have few rights, and how foreigners can get screwed out of everything. Imagine you had several thousand wrapped-up in Jeonsae or Wolsae deposit, and the landlord just decided to not give your money back citing "damages." You'd have to stay in Korea a year or more just to fight it to get your money back!! |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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This happens everywhere.
My previous landlord knew I was leaving the country and the deposit can only be returned after the final day of rent, but we were no longer in the country.
He didn't even send me a list of damages. So i send a few e-mails, then he got his lawyers on my ass and then I put my lawyer on his.
Got all my money and a little bit extra too, minus the lawyer fee. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Great to see the MR is up and running again.
I guess the key to getting justice here is to live here for years and be patient. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Excellent podcast, informative and fun. Thanks! |
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fence sitter
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I forgot to mention during the interview that several times during this process we had to put down deposit money for certain procedures. Something along the line of W500,000 (plus 100,000 for breaking the lock) total. That was returned to us with the collected money. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I tried twice to download it, the first time it timed-out, the second time it could not be found. After each time, the adult friend finder page popped up. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| fence sitter wrote: |
| I forgot to mention during the interview that several times during this process we had to put down deposit money for certain procedures. Something along the line of W500,000 (plus 100,000 for breaking the lock) total. That was returned to us with the collected money. |
Yeah, you said you were gonna get to that, but you ran out of time.
I wonder which would have been less trouble, going through the courts or hiring a .. um.. "problem solver" ...type guy. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| buymybook wrote: |
| I tried twice to download it, the first time it timed-out, the second time it could not be found. After each time, the adult friend finder page popped up. |
Yeah, there seem to be some server problems today. Around 2 to 3pm there is often a slow-down as they update the download lists (that's midnight their time I think).
People sometimes have better luck grabbing it through I-tunes. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Tried to download it and it timed out. And every time I tried to play it from the site, it just stuck at 0:00. |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Click on the blue download bar instead. Seems to be working now. They were probably updating something on the server. |
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