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Troll_Bait
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 Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: Over 30% of Koreans prefer violence to law to solve problems |
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http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/02/13/200902130041.asp
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Koreans don't rule out violence
More than three out of every 10 Koreans regard violence as a more effective solution to problems than the law, showed a survey released yesterday.
Asked whether violence could be the answer to problems that communication or the law could not solve, 565 people, or 37.5 percent of the respondents, answered in the affirmative, according to the survey by the Korean Institute of Criminology.
The survey was conducted on 1,505 people in seven cities in November-December.
Of the rest, 517 respondents (34.4 percent) answered that the idea is "not so true," reserving definite responses. Only 423 respondents (28.1 percent) showed a clear objection to the use of violence.
A third of the respondents said that trivial matters are better solved by violence than by law, and a fifth said violent acts should be responded to with violence.
Supporters of violence, when asked for situations in which it is justified, listed self-defense, defense against the abuse of public power, and a countermeasure to marital infidelity.
"Though the public shows a limited acceptance of the necessity of violence, they actually treat it as a highly effective problem solver," said Yeon Seong-jin, director of the Public Relations and International Cooperation Center of the KIC. "Violence is a way of life in the Korean society."
Among detailed categories, home violence was one of the most controversial issues.
It turned out that 52.4 percent thought that the lack of corporal punishment in homes spoiled the children's manners, according to the survey.
Most of the respondents (88 percent) had gone through physical punishment when growing up, and 50 percent had experienced beatings for no specific reason.
Among those beaten for no reason during childhood, 69.1 percent said that their parents were violent toward each other.
More than 40 percent of married people who were raised by physically aggressive parents had themselves used violence upon their spouses, far exceeding the 10.5 percent shown in the group with no home violence experiences.
"Violence is transferred from one generation to the next," said Yeon. "The survey shows the importance of banishing any use of violence from homes."
Public opinion varied, flustering between the resulting emotional damages and the functional necessity.
"I am against violence, but I think that a proper education requires corporal punishment to a certain extent," said Park Seong-yeon, a graduate student.
"Of course, the minimal corporal punishment should always be appropriately exercised for rational and educational purposes."
Some oppose, saying that violence, though it could temporarily solve problems, can only be harmful in a longer term.
"One can never really forget the pain caused by violence, especially when unconvinced about the reasons," said Park Soo-hyun, a corporate newsletter writer. "I hear that many serial killers have experienced unjust home violence in their childhood."
The problem is that Korean people have always been lenient on the use of violence, some criticized.
"In Korea, most people think that they have to be loud and conspicuous to make themselves heard or seen, and for this, they often rely on violence," said Nam Ha-yeon, a female corporate worker. "Violence is, however, no more than a vicious circle that always calls for more of it."
Nam cited the Yongsan tragedy as a typical example of reproduction of violence. Last month, a fire broke out that killed six people during a fierce crackdown on a sit-in demonstration by redevelopment evictees.
By Bae Hyun-jung
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2009.02.13 |
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Chamchiman
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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There's a Korean proverb to reflect this sentiment:
법은 멀고 주먹은 가깝다
(The law is far, the fist is near.) |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Can't say I'm really surprised. Koreans in general are over emotional and hot tempered. The justice system here is such a joke that it would seem natural to want to take the law into your own hands.
Can you imagine what this country would be like if it had gun laws like the United States? |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| funny though...that almost every Korean man I've met has been a sissy... |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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New haiku:
Life in the 50's
Beat your wife and your children
Have lots of gay sex |
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Sushi
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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That beaten kid thing leading to the next generation being a beating person is probably why so many highschool kids and middle school kids get beaten by their teachers. In korean cultural terms it's seen as giving their students a little bit of love.
Anyone hear of some Korean student being hit 200 times, and having to go to the hospital for treatment |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| I have to say I'm surprised it's that high. There are a lot of cases where Koreans just go through the legal system, even when it's clear they won't get any justice, or possibly even get screwed over by the justice system. |
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sobriquet
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Does that including defecating on peoples doorsteps? |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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My personal experience talking to Koreans about this, and as they say you can take it for whatever it is worth because it is my experience, they don't have much trust in the law or law enforcement. The law tends to tilt to whoever has the most money and Koreans don't come from a culture that sees the courts as an answer to their problems in quite the same way the litigous (sp? I have no idea and I am too lazy to look it up now) American society.
I have heard something like this: when it comes to solving conflicts, that is what the Korean mafia is for. Someone is not paying his or her debts, just hire a local thug to threaten him or her. It is part of the Korean way. You all know: dirty deeds done dirt cheap... |
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Mix1
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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The actual percentage is probably higher than 30%.
Remember, that 30% are only the ones who ADMIT the truth about what they believe. Many more probably answered based on how the results would appear.
But, looking at their crappy law system...can you really blame them for these figures?
(ok, yes you can, but I was being rhetorical) |
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wylies99
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Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| My personal experience talking to Koreans about this, and as they say you can take it for whatever it is worth because it is my experience, they don't have much trust in the law or law enforcement. |
Very true.
Even when it comes to something as simple as visiting a police station to help me with getting fingerprints, Koreans just don't have the same attitude towards the police that we have in the USA. They view the police with suspicion, and sometimes with contempt, but rarely with respect. Liberals view them as "the enemy" and conservatives view them as lazy. |
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Dwills
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| I have a lot of complaints about Korea, but violence has never come into it. The only people I've seen beaten by Korean men are women and children. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| Dwills wrote: |
| I have a lot of complaints about Korea, but violence has never come into it. The only people I've seen beaten by Korean men are women and children. |
Yeah, and why complain about that?  |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Myself included, violence is much more satisfying. |
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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| This is how most people do it in the US too. How many of you actually call the cops when you have problems with someone? Don't you just handle it yourself? The cops aren't even effective at handling most things. |
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