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Viaje
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
Location: Indebted, USA
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 Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: Blackjack in casinos |
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| Is the blackjack the same regular kind as played in Las Vegas? How many decks are used, are cards dealt from a shoe? I'm wondering if they use computer technology to determine if someone is counting cards and beating the casino? In Vegas they all have this modern technology now, and the "eye in the sky" can tell if you are a professional or even just if you are playing a certain winning strategy--then they politely, or rudely, ask you to leave. Anybody who knows a little about 21 have comments or anyone who knows nothing can say what its like there? |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I don't play it here as it seams that the odds are worse than other countries. Many people don't agree with me but I think there are cheating.
I am quite good at counting cards and as far as I can tell the decks are missing some face cards.
I asked them to turn over a shoe before and show us and they got really mad and said I wasn't even playing so go away. I said I would play if they could convince me they had a fair deck. The got got really pissed off about it.
They use a card machine. In Australia people swear that they lose more when machines are in place.
My advice is gamble in Macau not in Korea. |
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ForceOne
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| I agree--odds seem way worse here than any other place I've ever played. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| I don't play it here as it seams that the odds are worse than other countries. Many people don't agree with me but I think there are cheating. |
"cunning!" |
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JAZZYJJJ
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| I am quite good at counting cards and as far as I can tell the decks are missing some face card. |
In a 6 deck shoe about 1.5 decks are cut - that may explain it.
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| They use a card machine. In Australia people swear that they lose more when machines are in place. |
Turnover. 4-5 shoes an hour becomes 6-7.
Blackjack here is fine. Casino customer service is not.
J. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| JAZZYJJJ wrote: |
| D.D. wrote: |
| I am quite good at counting cards and as far as I can tell the decks are missing some face card. |
In a 6 deck shoe about 1.5 decks are cut - that may explain it.
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| They use a card machine. In Australia people swear that they lose more when machines are in place. |
Turnover. 4-5 shoes an hour becomes 6-7.
Blackjack here is fine. Casino customer service is not.
J. |
Good response.
D.D do yourself a favour and don't gamble. You're obviously clueless. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
| JAZZYJJJ wrote: |
| D.D. wrote: |
| I am quite good at counting cards and as far as I can tell the decks are missing some face card. |
In a 6 deck shoe about 1.5 decks are cut - that may explain it.
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| They use a card machine. In Australia people swear that they lose more when machines are in place. |
Turnover. 4-5 shoes an hour becomes 6-7.
Blackjack here is fine. Casino customer service is not.
J. |
Good response.
D.D do yourself a favour and don't gamble. You're obviously clueless. |
? So you have proof to it being the same odds here. You are obviously a jerk. We were stating our opinions on Black jack and some **** has to start personal attacks.
Watch how fast people go through a 100 on a Korean table vs other countries. Not even a close comparison. |
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wormholes101
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Blackjack in casinos |
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| Viaje wrote: |
| Is the blackjack the same regular kind as played in Las Vegas? How many decks are used, are cards dealt from a shoe? I'm wondering if they use computer technology to determine if someone is counting cards and beating the casino? In Vegas they all have this modern technology now, and the "eye in the sky" can tell if you are a professional or even just if you are playing a certain winning strategy--then they politely, or rudely, ask you to leave. Anybody who knows a little about 21 have comments or anyone who knows nothing can say what its like there? |
Where I have played they use a 6 deck shoe. The always prove the cards when they put in a new set of cards. It's a manual shoe, not an auto shuffler.
I don't know Vegas rules so I couldn't say. What rules do you specifically want to know?
I only play basic strategy but it works well for me mostly. Most people here have no idea how to play. There's a lot of Japanese. The Koreans aren't allowed to play in 99% of the casinos here. |
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SHANE02
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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| gambling is for mugs anyway. |
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dimnd
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: Blackjack in Vegas |
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I was a BJ dealer in Vegas in 1997 and we had single deck, double deck and shoes. We only had at that time a few tables with shoes...the rest were single deck pitch.
They were six deck shoes
The shoes were not automatic. We shuffled our cards..and the player cut the cards and we moved the rest to the back from the cut...first cards proved.
Now, there are automatic shufflers at every casino. Six deck shoes and the first card is put buried and ass soon as the dealer finishes the hand the cards are collected and go in a different shuffler I think..or in the back of the cards that have been shuffled..I was teaching in Nevada last year..and that is what I remember.
When pitching at a table with a single deck, it depends on how many are sitting...as to how many hands you deal. Full table you only deal about 3 hands..and so forth.
Double deck..of course double that.
I was only at Binion's and the Gold Coast which is over by the Rio. |
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tomwaits
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Location: PC Bong
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my experience at Walker Hill has been I lose my money fast--very fast--and then they kick me out once I'm broke.
not a good casino exp. wouldn't surprise me if they are cheats somehow.. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| samd wrote: |
| JAZZYJJJ wrote: |
| D.D. wrote: |
| I am quite good at counting cards and as far as I can tell the decks are missing some face card. |
In a 6 deck shoe about 1.5 decks are cut - that may explain it.
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| They use a card machine. In Australia people swear that they lose more when machines are in place. |
Turnover. 4-5 shoes an hour becomes 6-7.
Blackjack here is fine. Casino customer service is not.
J. |
Good response.
D.D do yourself a favour and don't gamble. You're obviously clueless. |
? So you have proof to it being the same odds here. You are obviously a jerk. We were stating our opinions on Black jack and some **** has to start personal attacks.
Watch how fast people go through a 100 on a Korean table vs other countries. Not even a close comparison. |
Seriously, you have no idea how ignorant you sound. Pick up a book on either statistics or blackjack/casinos and come back to this thread.
Sorry for the personal attack, but if I made a comment in a thread that was way off I'd expect to be pulled up on it too.
dimnd, I used to be a dealer also, but have never dealt less than six decks. Usually dealt 8 out of a shoe, and then later out of one of the automatic shuffling machines. Sounds a lot more interesting, and a lot less mechanical. |
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